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Old 08-29-2019, 12:57 PM
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Cards have been graded. I'll probably get them end of next week. This will add 14 to my set, bringing me to 136/206, and giving me some trade / sale bait. Some toughies in there.

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T207 Beals Becker EXCELLENT 5
T207 Robert M. Byrne GOOD 2
T207 John James Callahan VERY GOOD+ 3.5
T207 Tex Covington VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
T207 Joshua Devore VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
T207 Lawrence Doyle EXCELLENT 5
T207 John Ferry FAIR 1.5
T207 Ray Fisher (Blue Cap) VERY GOOD 3
T207 Del Gainor EXCELLENT 5
T207 Roy Golden VERY GOOD 3
T207 George Graham GOOD 2
T207 J.G. Graney VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT+ 4.5
T207 Charles Herzog EXCELLENT+ 5.5
T207 William Hogan VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 MK
T207 George Kaler VERY GOOD 3
T207 Elmer Knetzer GOOD 2
T207 Jack Lapp GOOD 2
T207 W. Arlington Latham GOOD 2
T207 Albert Leifield VERY GOOD 3
T207 Paddy Livingston ("A" On Shirt) GOOD 2
T207 George McBride VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
T207 Alexander McCarthy VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
T207 Matthew McIntyre VERY GOOD 3
T207 Clyde Milan GOOD 2
T207 George Mullin (No "D" On Cap) VERY GOOD 3
T207 Ivan Olson GOOD+ 2.5
T207 Jack Quinn VERY GOOD 3
T207 Victor Saier GOOD 2
T207 Wallace Smith (St.Louis) GOOD 2
T207 Charles Street VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
T207 Bert Tooley FAIR 1.5
T207 Ed (Dixie) Walker VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
T207 George Wiltse VERY GOOD 3
T207 Harry Wolverton VERY GOOD+ 3.5
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Great progress John! Quite the project
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Great progress John! Quite the project
Eric,

Thanks!!! Here are a few more that I just closed on a deal with a fellow board member. Very excited!!
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Has anyone considered a Monster or Kraken type calculation for this T207 set?
The tough ones are, well...tough!

And similar to the E90-1 American Caramels, when you get to half/three quarters of the set in quantity, it’s just getting started on the hard part!

The keeper of this calculator will likely need to title his own description, since the previous monikers are in fierce trademark discussions as we read...

I’m too far from the median, forget expert , knowledge on this set so I am no candidate for the role.

Anyone game for the game?
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:52 PM
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Has anyone considered a Monster or Kraken type calculation for this T207 set?
The tough ones are, well...tough!

And similar to the E90-1 American Caramels, when you get to half/three quarters of the set in quantity, it’s just getting started on the hard part!

The keeper of this calculator will likely need to title his own description, since the previous monikers are in fierce trademark discussions as we read...

I’m too far from the median, forget expert , knowledge on this set so I am no candidate for the role.

Anyone game for the game?

I’m only qualified to suggest a name. I’m just learning about the set, it’s nuances, rarities and misconceptions. Very layered; very intricate. I’ve “met” several collectors who really know their stuff on this guy. Trying to soak it in

Suggestions for the name: The Scorpion, Brown Bastard, The Nemesis, Lewis’s Folly. What else?
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:20 AM
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Here is from this week's mail call. Some real toughies.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:02 AM
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The Hartley & Hooper!

Beautiful!
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:27 AM
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Great set, and incredible progress on the set in such a relatively short period of time. 3/4 of the set down, now just the incredibly tough ones to go! I intentionally only went after the easier or mildly difficult ones, so I have no clue how hard the rest are, just know they are tough.

A Monster/Kraken thread like Brian mentioned would be perfect for this set. It would not get too many participating (The Brown Bastard is a very appropriate name for this set, both because of all the rarities and the disdain that many collectors have for the set...hey, I like it!), but it would be interesting to get the T207 diehards to help compile a rating for the cards similar to the E90-1 Kraken. I know I got plenty of help refining the Kraken ratings from a lot of knowledgeable folk here.

You would have to find some slightly off-kilter individual, someone along the lines of myself or Frank to be the caretaker. They wouldn't necessarily need to be the most knowledgeable, just enthusiastic about the set and a dedicated vintage collector for life. The Brown Bastard deserves all the love it can get.

Brian (courtesy example of Brown Bastard Henry included free of charge)
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:31 PM
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Congrats, John. You've got a nice looking set going there!
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:46 PM
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Congrats, John. You've got a nice looking set going there!
Ron,
You da man! Thank you for the opportunity!!

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Old 09-22-2019, 08:04 AM
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Some real toughies we rarely see for sale. Congrats.

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Old 11-06-2019, 02:01 PM
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I've been not so patiently waiting and finally my grades are in on 50 T207s. Most are lower grade which fits right into my set. Several board members contributed to this hoard. I'll have them in hand next week and post pictures - gotta figure out where this puts me. I'm guessing this adds 20+ to my set. VERY EXCITED!!!!

GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Jack Barry
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Jack Barry
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Jack Barry
FAIR 1.5 MK 1912 T207 Brown Background Beals Becker
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Otis Crandall
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Howard Camnitz
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Robert Coulson
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background John Daubert
GOOD+ 2.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Ted Easterly
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Louis Evans
GOOD+ 2.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Arthur Fletcher
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background E.S. Hallinan
GOOD 2 MC 1912 T207 Brown Background Charlie Hall
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Charlie Hall
VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Robert Harmon
VERY GOOD 3 1912 T207 Brown Background Olaf Henriksen
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Olaf Henriksen
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background George Kaler
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background John Kling
VERY GOOD 3 1912 T207 Brown Background Otto Knabe
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Edward Konetchy
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Harry Krause
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 MC 1912 T207 Brown Background Joseph Kutina
POOR 1 MK 1912 T207 Brown Background Briscoe Lord (Philadelphia)
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Harry Lord (Chicago)
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background Larry McLean
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Harry McIntire
FAIR 1.5 MK 1912 T207 Brown Background Clyde Milan
GOOD+ 2.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Thomas Needham
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1912 T207 Brown Background Earl Moore
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background George Mullin ("D" On Cap)
GOOD 2 MC 1912 T207 Brown Background George Paskart (Paskert)
GOOD+ 2.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Arthur Rasmussen
GOOD 2 MC 1912 T207 Brown Background Edward Reulbach
AA: AUTHENTIC ALTERED 1912 T207 Brown Background Germany Schaefer
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 MC 1912 T207 Brown Background Fred Snodgrass
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Tris Speaker
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Oscar Stanage
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Chas. (Heinie) Wagner
AA: AUTHENTIC ALTERED 1912 T207 Brown Background Robert Wallace
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background John Warhop
VERY GOOD 3 1912 T207 Brown Background Eugene Woodburn
POOR 1 1912 T207 Brown Background Roger Bresnahan
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Robert M. Byrne
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background George Chalmers
GOOD+ 2.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Paddy Livingston (Large "C" On Shirt)
AA: AUTHENTIC ALTERED 1912 T207 Brown Background Hamilton Hyatt
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background F.H. (Bill) Lange
EXCELLENT 5 1912 T207 Brown Background Barney Pelty
GOOD 2 1912 T207 Brown Background "Red" Kuhn
FAIR 1.5 1912 T207 Brown Background Don Carlos Ragan
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Old 11-07-2019, 06:50 AM
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Very impressive, you are almost there.
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Hi John, thank you for the updates. I enjoy watching your journey and I am amazed at how quickly you have assembled a good portion of the set.

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Old 11-07-2019, 05:26 PM
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Hi John, thank you for the updates. I enjoy watching your journey and I am amazed at how quickly you have assembled a good portion of the set.

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Thank you, Rick.

I know Net54 isn't big on "Looky what I got" threads, but I feel it refreshing as I look at the first 10-20 threads on the board. Wish I could see some other's sets and their progress towards completing those sets. I'll post pics when I get the cards in hand.
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Old 11-10-2019, 08:52 AM
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Some new pics. I'm up to 180 of 206 with another 20 at PSA. Chippin' away!!!
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Way to go, John! You are "chippin' away" mighty fast. Once you complete the basic T207 set, surely you'll take on the tougher challenge - i.e., completing a master T207 set.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:21 PM
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Way to go, John! You are "chippin' away" mighty fast. Once you complete the basic T207 set, surely you'll take on the tougher challenge - i.e., completing a master T207 set.
No way, Val!!! I can't imagine getting a full back run - the Anon 3s are ridiculously tough as well as the Napoleons. I'll be content with just one of each if I ever get there. I have a number of toughies to go.
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I always loved this set, and watched it from afar for many years, before finally going after it. I finished the complete set in 3-4 years, not easy, but worth the effort.

One of my favorite cards - easy. Beals Becker. He just looks so lonely and forlorn, like he's sitting there thinking "Will I ever get a chance to play?"

I had the privilege of meeting four of the T207 players in person - Larry Gardner, Harry Hooper, Rube Marquard, and Zach Wheat. That means I'm getting old!
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:29 AM
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We are all getting old, Tom. It just happens.

And way to keep chiseling away at it, John. Good luck in the quest.

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I always loved this set, and watched it from afar for many years, before finally going after it. I finished the complete set in 3-4 years, not easy, but worth the effort.

One of my favorite cards - easy. Beals Becker. He just looks so lonely and forlorn, like he's sitting there thinking "Will I ever get a chance to play?"

I had the privilege of meeting four of the T207 players in person - Larry Gardner, Harry Hooper, Rube Marquard, and Zach Wheat. That means I'm getting old!
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Old 11-17-2019, 02:26 PM
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180 different T207s!!!
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Awesome pic there John!
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Nice run going there. I’ve always loved the look of my brown backs.

Here are my favorites:




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Old 11-21-2019, 09:18 AM
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Nice Pirates!!
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Thanks much. That’s my collecting focus primarily hall of fame Pirates and the 1909 team.

I really enjoy this set and you’ve done a great job putting together some nice cards.




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Old 11-27-2019, 08:09 AM
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Mail Call!!
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Old 11-30-2019, 07:32 AM
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Picked up this toughie - need less than 20!
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:28 PM
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A few more just popped at PSA

GOOD 2 Rafael Almeida
POOR 1 Neal Ball
FAIR 1.5 Eros Barger
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 Fred Blanding
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 MC Hugh Bradley
POOR 1 Thomas W. Leach
GOOD 2 Duffy Lewis
FAIR 1.5 MC Harry McIntire
POOR 1 William McKechnie
POOR 1 Mike Mitchell (Cleveland, Picture Is Willie Mitchell)
POOR 1 O.C. Peters
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 MC Wilbur Schardt
POOR 1 Harry Lee Spratt
VERY GOOD+ 3.5 Stanley Yerkes


This will bring me to under 10 needed - woot!

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Love seeing your progress and glad knowing I helped you on a few in the past year, Would love to help you with the last 10......good luck!

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