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Old 07-23-2019, 12:03 PM
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Well if Jeff is representing some of the criminals I am going to go out on a limb and guess that he might be fighting against their imprisonment.
Of course. Brent hires an adept attorney to help figure out the best way to save his ass. It may or may not have a positive long term affect on the hobby (as is being advertised), but I pretty certain Brent isn't interested in that. But if it does benefit the hobby and folks get restitution, the pitchforks will be lowered somewhat, which can only be a positive for Brent's future wardrobe.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:07 PM
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It may or may not have a positive long term affect on the hobby (as is being advertised), but I pretty certain Brent isn't interested in that.
Truer words have never been spoken. Brent isn't, hasn't and won't ever be interested in the long-term affect on the hobby.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:10 PM
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Truer words have never been spoken. Brent isn't, hasn't and won't ever be interested in the long-term affect on the hobby.
Nope... just maximizing the money. And screwing collectors over, no matter what the cost.

His sad letter on conservation (once the waters got hot) is proof alone of this. And any “good deeds” he’s doing now (refunds + acknowledgement of misrepresentation) are being done at the firm instruction of his legal team.

A classic case of changing one’s tune, only because they were caught.

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Old 07-23-2019, 12:26 PM
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I'd have to go back to the beginning of the PWCC debacle. But could swear Jeff made not just one or two, but numerous comments negatively towards Brent. Ahh, to be a criminal defense attorney in the good ol' USA.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:47 PM
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I'd have to go back to the beginning of the PWCC debacle. But could swear Jeff made not just one or two, but numerous comments negatively towards Brent. Ahh, to be a criminal defense attorney in the good ol' USA.
Absolutely brilliant move by Brent and Betsy. They've bought the silence of one of their loudest critics, and likely the most powerful when it comes to connections with law enforcement.
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Absolutely brilliant move by Brent and Betsy. They've bought the silence of one of their loudest critics, and likely the most powerful when it comes to connections with law enforcement.

I agree. If Brent listens and does everything Jeff tells him to do, this is an absolute masterstroke.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:38 PM
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Truer words have never been spoken. Brent isn't, hasn't and won't ever be interested in the long-term affect on the hobby.
He's still up to no good, witness his recent attempt to sell the altered T3 Cobb even after he knew it was tainted. Had the consignor not insisted it be taken down, he would have sold it to some unsuspecting collector.
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He's still up to no good, witness his recent attempt to sell the altered T3 Cobb even after he knew it was tainted. Had the consignor not insisted it be taken down, he would have sold it to some unsuspecting collector.
Is he still going through with the tax avoidance vault?
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Is he still going through with the tax avoidance vault?
I would presume so although I don't know if people are still comfortable sending cards to it.
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So I am thinking of sending my collection to this vault in Oregon, what do you guys think?

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But if it does benefit the hobby and folks get restitution, the pitchforks will be lowered somewhat, which can only be a positive for Brent's future wardrobe.
I hope the pitchforks aim true. I would like to see repercussions as well as restitution.

Keep fighting the good fight BODA - the tide seems to be turning. Thanks again
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:54 PM
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So I am thinking of sending my collection to this vault in Oregon, what do you guys think?



I hope the pitchforks aim true. I would like to see repercussions as well as restitution.

Keep fighting the good fight BODA - the tide seems to be turning. Thanks again
I still don't understand how the vault thing works? There are still many auction companies that DONT charge tax that I win stuff from. So, whats the advantage?
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I still don't understand how the vault thing works? There are still many auction companies that DONT charge tax that I win stuff from. So, whats the advantage?
I am not a tax lawyer, but if you buy from an AH that doesn't yet charge sales tax but ships to you, you still owe tax to your home state if it charges it. If the card is shipped to a state that doesn't charge sales tax such as Oregon, you may not owe tax to your home state at least at that point. Please correct me if I have this wrong.
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Jay, I was totally joking. I will no longer bid or buy from PWCC, so the last thing I would do is send my cards to them! I guess my "joke" missed the mark. I just hope the pitchforks have better aim!
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