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Old 11-20-2012, 10:59 AM
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Being a newbie, I am sorry if this has been brought up already, but after reading back 3 years of posts (haha, I can't get enough, nerd here) I haven't seen it.

For whatever reason, Topps didn't make certain cards of players at the begining of their careers, or the end, and we got screwed. Not talking the "non" contract cards of the 50's and the Maury Wills situations, but these -

1957 Harmon Killebrew

Got to start with my idol. A 55, 56....no 57?? One of the coolest years of cards, and no Killer. Back on track with a 58...

1976 Harmon Killebrew

I would have killed for a card with him in a Royals uniform!!

1974 Willie Mays

The World Series card is not enough, and it would have helped that lackluster year...

1967 Sandy Koufax

Now that was just RUDE! He won 27 games in 66!!

1966 Steve Carlton

Rookie card in 65, then had to wait until 67?? I was ticked when I went for this set!

1977 Reggie Jackson

Ok, there was a card, but an airbrushed (poorly) Yankee? How awesome would it have been to have an action shot of him as an Oriole!?!?

1970 Mickey Mantle

OK, he was retired...but cmon, stretch him ONE MORE YEAR!

1972 Ernie Banks

Seriously? He still hit 3 HRs in 71!!

1967 Bobby Richardson

The guy had a FULL season in 66! Is 139 games not enough?

1980 Thurman Munson

He played almost a 100 games before he passed away, Topps missed a BIG opportunity to honor a great one...instead, no card.

1975 Al Kaline

The guy has a full season, gets his 3000 hit (can't quite get that last HR though, haha) and all he gets is a Highlight card...gyped!


I am sure there are many more...but I would have loved to have any one of these cards...especially the Killebrews!!
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:24 AM
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Great list, Harliduck. Here's a few more:

1972 Topps card of Luis Tiant with the Red Sox
1974 or 1975 Topps card of Orlando Cepeda with the Royals
1965 or 1966 Topps card of Satchel Paige with the Kansas City Athletics



Topps did get it right in 1968 with a final card of Elston Howard with the BoSox, one of my personal favs.

Regarding Tiant, he wasn't in the 1972 set, but was included in the 1970-71 Ovenca Venezuelan Winter League set (I believe misdated 1970 in most guides) in a Red Sox hat and uniform.

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Old 11-20-2012, 11:41 AM
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A quick search on Ebay reveals that Killebrew was depicted with the Royals in the 1975 APBA Kansas City Royals team set and 1975 SSPC.


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Wouldn't have minded seeing a memorial card of Munson, as Topps honored Campanella after his accident.

Would have been very cool if Topps gave a Minoso card for each (retired) decade he batted in.

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Old 11-20-2012, 01:09 PM
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Adam...THANKS! Just went and bought that very card...I passed on the APBA, no picture...

Didn't even think about Satchell Paige...we were robbed on that one.


Yes on the Munson, would have been a highlight of that 80 set for sure. Topps could have also done a better job with Clemente in 73, but considering their track record I suppose we should be lucky he got a card at all in that set. One of my favorite Clemente cards. I think the Campanella is a great card...

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Old 11-20-2012, 03:47 PM
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I agree on the Munson. I remember being surprised -at age 20- that Topps did not have a Munson.Topps did a nice Campanella and coincidently at the same position. As far as Clemente, I am sure all Topps were printed when his death occured, but then it strikes me that they had time to "do something" in later print runs like series 4, 5, or 6. Je should have had 2 cards that year.---Tom
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:00 PM
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Being a newbie, I am sorry if this has been brought up already, but after reading back 3 years of posts (haha, I can't get enough, nerd here) I haven't seen it.

For whatever reason, Topps didn't make certain cards of players at the begining of their careers, or the end, and we got screwed. Not talking the "non" contract cards of the 50's and the Maury Wills situations, but these -

1957 Harmon Killebrew

Got to start with my idol. A 55, 56....no 57?? One of the coolest years of cards, and no Killer. Back on track with a 58...

1976 Harmon Killebrew

I would have killed for a card with him in a Royals uniform!!

1974 Willie Mays

The World Series card is not enough, and it would have helped that lackluster year...

1967 Sandy Koufax

Now that was just RUDE! He won 27 games in 66!!

1966 Steve Carlton

Rookie card in 65, then had to wait until 67?? I was ticked when I went for this set!

1977 Reggie Jackson

Ok, there was a card, but an airbrushed (poorly) Yankee? How awesome would it have been to have an action shot of him as an Oriole!?!?

1970 Mickey Mantle

OK, he was retired...but cmon, stretch him ONE MORE YEAR!

1972 Ernie Banks

Seriously? He still hit 3 HRs in 71!!

1967 Bobby Richardson

The guy had a FULL season in 66! Is 139 games not enough?

1980 Thurman Munson

He played almost a 100 games before he passed away, Topps missed a BIG opportunity to honor a great one...instead, no card.

1975 Al Kaline

The guy has a full season, gets his 3000 hit (can't quite get that last HR though, haha) and all he gets is a Highlight card...gyped!


I am sure there are many more...but I would have loved to have any one of these cards...especially the Killebrews!!
Remember in those days, Topps was producing cards for the "kid" audience and they figured if they guy had retired, the kids would not want him anymore.

Obviously, on an historical basis -- this was a mistake BUT when you think your target audience is 10 year old boys -- these omissions make sense

Players such as Richardson and Koufax announced their retirement, so why publish a card of them. In fact the only reason we have a 69 Mantle was because it was presumed he would play one more season in 69. He retired in March,,,, so Topps just added a line to the card.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:09 PM
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Remember in those days, Topps was producing cards for the "kid" audience and they figured if they guy had retired, the kids would not want him anymore.

Obviously, on an historical basis -- this was a mistake BUT when you think your target audience is 10 year old boys -- these omissions make sense

Players such as Richardson and Koufax announced their retirement, so why publish a card of them. In fact the only reason we have a 69 Mantle was because it was presumed he would play one more season in 69. He retired in March,,,, so Topps just added a line to the card.

D'oh!! I was thinking of the same point, Rich. Thanks for beating me to it. I'll bet it wasn't until sometime in the 1980's that Topps realized it had somehow acquired an adult market. There must be quite a few other star players in the postwar era who had no Topps card in the year following their retirements. The company simple figured those guys dropped off the edge of the flat earth when they hung it up.
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