1991 Topps Double Front (Glossy/Matte)

[JustinD]

Psa rarely grades proofs, which I would lean more to these being than a printing error for sure.

You might have better luck with Beckett.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Psa rarely grades proofs, which I would lean more to these being than a printing error for sure.

You might have better luck with Beckett.

I did try beckett for the 5 double sided cards I have but when they didn't grade I asked why and this is the response I got:

We’ve never seen cards that had double printed fronts. We’ve only seen ones with wrong backs. We’re thinking that it was factory items that were not supposed to get out from the factory. Because of that, we weren’t really comfortable grading/authenticating them for those reasons.

When I pointed out that they do grade the 1990 Donruss double fronts and asked what it takes to get them graded this is the response I got:

We do not grade all error/test cards, so it is just a case-by-case basis with each of those sets as to if we have sufficient information on each set, correspondence from the card company on us being able to grade these cards, etc. Most likely we tried to reach out to Topps about this set and they did not give us any information, so we went ahead to not grade the set because of lack of information from the card company. If you are able to reach out to Topps and have them send information to us regarding these error cards, we will look into grading them.

So my question is does anyone have a contact at Topps that might be able to get me more information on these cards?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I did try beckett for the 5 double sided cards I have but when they didn't grade I asked why and this is the response I got:



When I pointed out that they do grade the 1990 Donruss double fronts and asked what it takes to get them graded this is the response I got:



So my question is does anyone have a contact at Topps that might be able to get me more information on these cards?

The fact they are not on regular 91 Topps card stock was probably also a big reason they would not grade them.

I will say it is weird Beckett would not grade them as they will slab almost anything.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by bnorth

The fact they are not on regular 91 Topps card stock was probably also a big reason they would not grade them.

I will say it is weird Beckett would not grade them as they will slab almost anything.

They are on regular card stock. I am confused why you think that?

The only reason I stated one side was glossy and the other side as matte was because the "matte" side is the side the stats would typically be on. There were some double glossy side 1990 Donruss cards so I wanted to be clear that this card still had the making of the regular card, except that the 'reverse' is does not contain stats.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

They are on regular card stock. I am confused why you think that?

The only reason I stated one side was glossy and the other side as matte was because the "matte" side is the side the stats would typically be on. There were some double glossy side 1990 Donruss cards so I wanted to be clear that this card still had the making of the regular card, except that the 'reverse' is does not contain stats.

I 100% guarantee it is not regular 91 Topps card stock. Look at the back of any regular 91 Topps and it is not white. There is no white ink on a baseball card. Those cards have a white border on both sides so it can't be regular card stock.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I 100% guarantee it is not regular 91 Topps card stock. Look at the back of any regular 91 Topps and it is not white. There is no white ink on a baseball card. Those cards have a white border on both sides so it can't be regular card stock.

Ok I understand what you are saying. In my mind I separated the "finishing" of the cardstock from the cardstock itself (even if that is an errant way of thinking). I don't have the cards in hand, but when I get them back I will compare them to 1992 Topps and see if it would be more accurate to compare those two cards.

This is why I want to find a contact at Topps to see if they can shed more light on these.

[Bob Moose's Corvette]

I believe 'errors' were intentionally printed. 1990 and '91 were the worst.

I have some '91 Topps fronts, with 1989 Topps *football* backs.

[jacksoncoupage]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I 100% guarantee it is not regular 91 Topps card stock. Look at the back of any regular 91 Topps and it is not white. There is no white ink on a baseball card. Those cards have a white border on both sides so it can't be regular card stock.

I'm thinking they are printed on the 1991 Topps Traded (factory set) card stock. Pretty sure I have a copy of one somewhere, I'll dig around for it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage

I'm thinking they are printed on the 1991 Topps Traded (factory set) card stock. Pretty sure I have a copy of one somewhere, I'll dig around for it.

That would be grate Dylan. I think almost every thing Topps made that year had the white backs except their regular issue BB cards.