Chief Bender Opinion (Made $20 donation)

[tazdmb]

Just picked this up on ebay-Opinions appreciated

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181028837612...84.m1497.l2649



Jim, I made a $20 donation to Red Cross, so an opinion from you would be appreciated before I send in the money


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[prewarsports]

I am sure Jim will chime in and his opinion is more valauable than mine, but I think its good. I've owned 10 or so in my day and it compares very well.

[JimStinson]

Between 1926-1950 Bender was indeed a Philadelphia Athletics scout, minor league manager and coach as the notes (in another hand) under the heading appear to indicate and confirm. If its the Vincentown in NJ, its close enough to Philly that Bender would have attended. The notes are in fountain pen. The signature is in ball point correct ? The program has the date 1948 on it, are there any other notations either inside or outside ?
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[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by JimStinson

The signature is in ball point correct ? The program has the date 1948 on it, are there any other notations either inside or outside ?
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I just purchased it as the price was too good to pass up and I can return if a forgery. It appears that there are hand written notes in the same fountain pen on the bottom left of the program cover "Donald Harris; 35 Race St; Vincentown, NJ". I think Donald Harris was a 13 year-old living in Vincentown based upon some quick research:
http://www.ancestry.com/1940-census/...-Harris_4n1lwp

[JimStinson]

Although they existed in 1948 , Ball point pens as a signing medium were not commonly used yet, and they tended to write poorly and throw off globs of ink. The one pictured is pretty clean with the exception of the top part of the "C", its possible but unlikely it could have been signed at a later time as he died in 1954.
But will still go out on a limb and say its good , He was the guest of honor at the event and its unlikely that anyone who attended would have passed up an opportunity to get his autograph, BUT to be extra safe look at it under magnification and make sure its not a traceover, it dosen;t look to be in the scan but you can never be too careful
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[Leon]

Originally Posted by JimStinson

Although they existed in 1948 , Ball point pens as a signing medium were not commonly used yet, and they tended to write poorly and throw off globs of ink. The one pictured is pretty clean with the exception of the top part of the "C", its possible but unlikely it could have been signed at a later time as he died in 1954.
But will still go out on a limb and say its good , He was the guest of honor at the event and its unlikely that anyone who attended would have passed up an opportunity to get his autograph, BUT to be extra safe look at it under magnification and make sure its not a traceover, it dosen;t look to be in the scan but you can never be too careful
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I am far from an autograph guy but I see some globs of ink in that signature. Thanks a lot Jim, for doing this.....

[Michael B]

I sometimes found it difficult to visualize what was meant by the inconsistent ink in early ballpoint pens. That was until I purchased this autograph album that was signed at the 1948 Olympics. I purchased it directly from the woman who got it as a little girl while living in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, England. She now lives in Washington state. I am attaching four pages. The first one is all in blue ballpoint pen. The second is all in red ballpoint pen with some printing. The signature is Barney Ewell, the pride of Lancaster, PA, who won a gold and two silver medals in London. The third is signatures all in red ballpoint. The fourth has blue ballpoint in the upper left, fountain pen in the center and red ballpoint at the bottom. On the third page you can see some of the clotting and smearing caused by these pens. You can also see how thick the writing was. What is not visible is the ink transfer. On some of the pages there is ink transfer to the facing page very similar to what you get with fountain pen signatures in autograph albums.

Cheers,

Michael

[JimStinson]

I meant to include this example sooner but just now located it, signed in 1943
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