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Old 08-14-2014, 02:55 PM
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Default T206 Portraits - the borderline cards

I've been working on a portrait set for a little while now and realized my checklist was off yesterday. I don't even remember where I got the checklist from originally but I went to mark off the Davy Jones portrait and it wasn't on my list.

I did some searching for checklists and found a few different versions... my original was 177 cards, t206.org has one with 167 cards, and PSA set registry has 181 cards.

One of the problems is the borderline cards. My original 177 card checklist had O'neil listed (he is also listed in the t206.org checklist but not on the PSA checklist):



My original 177 card checklist did not have Strang listed (t206.org does not list Strang either but PSA does):



I definitely wouldn't consider Strang a portrait card... I'm on the fence with the O'neil card.

I guess I'm just trying to make sure I have the most definitive list and they all seem to differ.

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Old 08-14-2014, 03:51 PM
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Strange wouldn't be considered a portrait but the O'Neil is most definitely a portrait.
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Strange wouldn't be considered a portrait but the O'Neil is most definitely a portrait.
Definitely agree with Rhett.

I'm surprised at the differing opinions on what is deemed as a portrait...just doesn't seem too difficult to figure out which is which.
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I've always thought of the card as a portrait when the subject is not wearing a cap.
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Some lists have the McGraw with cap as a portrait as well. I wouldn't include it as such. I would call it a "just chillin" pose.

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It has nothing to do with whether someone has a hat on or not. If it is an image of the head and shoulders of a subject it is considered to be a portrait. Many players within the T206 set are "studio portraits" and many are not wearing their caps but that distinction has nothing to do with whether or not it is a portrait.
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I've always thought of the card as a portrait when the subject is not wearing a cap.
Perhaps just go with a 'studio portrait' collection, or go for a 'no cap' set and end up having to include this one:

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So are you at 181?
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seeing the example you offer, it made me realize what fun collecting the
balding folks might be.

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I don't think there is a right answer. It's your collection. Define it how you want. You draw the line. Caps/no caps whatever.
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Some other fun subsets are:

Gloves showing
Bats showing
Baseball showing
Catchers with catchers gear (catchers gloves included)
Cards with images in the background

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Some other fun subsets are:

Gloves showing
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Catchers with catchers gear (catchers gloves included)
Cards with images in the background

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Oh, and I would agree with Rhett. The O'Neil is a portrait, the Strang is not.
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