1986 Topps Roger Clemens Blue Streak Error

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Smokey

Bringing this back to life a little...with a twist. Has anyone else ever come across a Billy Sample "blue circle" variation? I was flipping through some 86' Topps and this is the first time I've seen or found this one. I've found the Clemens before but Billy Sample?!?

Fisheye print flaw, see posts #11 and #15 in this thread that mention a similar 86 Topps Jamie Easterly. ETA, late by a minute as usual, jacksoncoupage beat me to it.

[Smokey]

Man, I feel like this is a little more than a "fish eye" junk era example, but I am a wishful "junk" collector so there is bias....I think this is different though.

[ALR-bishop]

Everyone is just jealous Smokey. If we had it we would think it was great too

[JustinD]

I would agree that it is a fisheye in the black print run, however beauty and value lies in the beholder. If you love it, then love it!

[JustinD]

As a follow-up and as seemingly proof that an entire sheet is out there, I have located and added another fully missing black pass example. This time it is the Matuszek (back fully printed as like the other). Sorry for the crap quick photo, the elbow issue is just glare.

Here is the new addition -

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I done this a couple years ago to reduce the space I needed. Filled that 55 gallon barrel twice that day.

HaHa, I remember doing this years ago in the midst of a move with a bunch of monster boxes of late 80's commons. What I remember most is how hard it was to actually burn the cards. I don't know if it was the 88 Donruss, the 88 Score, the 89 Hoops or the Proset Football and Hockey....but the cards more melted then burned.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

HaHa, I remember doing this years ago in the midst of a move with a bunch of monster boxes of late 80's commons. What I remember most is how hard it was to actually burn the cards. I don't know if it was the 88 Donruss, the 88 Score, the 89 Hoops or the Proset Football and Hockey....but the cards more melted then burned.

The melters for me where the Sportflics. Thick plastic 3D cards.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Smokey

Bringing this back to life a little...with a twist. Has anyone else ever come across a Billy Sample "blue circle" variation? I was flipping through some 86' Topps and this is the first time I've seen or found this one. I've found the Clemens before but Billy Sample?!?

That is a very cool looking print defect. I would like a Clemens like that.

[West]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

HaHa, I remember doing this years ago in the midst of a move with a bunch of monster boxes of late 80's commons. What I remember most is how hard it was to actually burn the cards. I don't know if it was the 88 Donruss, the 88 Score, the 89 Hoops or the Proset Football and Hockey....but the cards more melted then burned.

I've burned cards too, mostly 1992 Topps baseball that has little for variations or anything interesting among the commons. Luckily I didn't have too much, they go up pretty good in a hot woodstove with a fire already going.

It's when you try to burn a big lot of cards on their own that you have issues...those babies need air between them to light. Reminds me of when my wife tried to burn one of those phonebook looking harbor freight or Northern Tool catalogs you get in the mail sometimes.

Back on topic - super cool errors/variations you guys have dug up! PSA recognition is always a huge step as well.

[Mike D.]

Back off-topic…I find cards far easier to compost than burn. Shredded they compost great, but even whole they’re leaf-sized slices of carbon.

[GoldenAge50s]

After going thru over 8,000 1986 cards, the only one I found that pertains to this thread is the Billy Sample card!
At least it's still in NRMT condition!

[CJtheCollector]

I've had a great time reading this thread. Thanks! I recently bought an unopened box of 1986 Topps and I'm about halfway through opening the packs. I've pulled the Roger Clemens, Tom Seaver and Terry Puhl. Is anyone still looking for any of these?

[hockeyhockey]

i'm always interested in terry puhl blue streak

[4reals]

CJ, does your 86 topps box that you pulled these from happen to have a serial number stamp or production number stamp somewhere on the box? I personally don't recall if they did. If so, it could help us zero in on boxes in the wild where these could be found.

[West]

The boxes have no identifying numbers to indicate date, only a product code.
It's the case that it came out of that has the date stamped on it within the 6 digit number. However, unlike Fleer, the cases are less correlated to their exact printing press run. Topps cards were printed off site and shipped in to Duryea to be cut and packed. After they were packed into boxes and cases they were stacked in the warehouse. Only when the orders came in for shipment were the cases stamped - by the packing/shipping department. So there were quite a few steps in between printing press and case stamping, leading to less correlation of dates with certain press runs.

In my experience the variations in press runs are better correlated to the actual type of packaging (wax/cello/rack) than to the date stamped on the case.

[Bigdaddy]

Stumbled across this Griffey, Sr card going through a 3200 ct box of ‘86s. Also saw a Winfield as shown earlier, but it was lost in the shuffle.

Looks like Ken Sr is half baked.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Stumbled across this Griffey, Sr card going through a 3200 ct box of ‘86s. Also saw a Winfield as shown earlier, but it was lost in the shuffle.

Looks like Ken Sr is half baked.

That is awesome. I have this very similar Jose Rijo. It is up for auction in the $1 Auction section in the BST area. Even if you don't bid on this awesome card please check out the $1 auction section. List something you no longer collect or bid on something for your collection. If we can get more bidders better and more items will get listed with an amazing $1 opening bid.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Stumbled across this Griffey, Sr card going through a 3200 ct box of ‘86s. Also saw a Winfield as shown earlier, but it was lost in the shuffle.

Looks like Ken Sr is half baked.

Any chance of rescuing the 86 Winfield?

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Any chance of rescuing the 86 Winfield?

Yeah, I'll sit back down with the box and go through it again.