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Old 12-05-2018, 08:48 PM
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Now that Im feeling completely paranoid, can someone chime in on my recent addition via Steiner????

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Old 12-06-2018, 11:13 AM
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This is why I hate the Green Diamond / John Henry myth and every time it comes up. It creates panic and people getting spun up over perfectly good items.

To date, other than an obvious fake on a scrap of paper, not one iota of evidence has been presented.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper View Post
Are you confident in your source on this?

One of the TPAs you mentioned specifically told me they never failed a Green Diamond and did not believe JH signed for Ted.
I said that he was not the one signing. After Ted died there was a flood of Photos sold by GD. They were not signed by Ted and you are going back to early 90's a lot of guys that worked for the TPA people are no longer there to tell you if they turned it down or not.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:22 PM
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Like Steve, I believe the whole "John Henry signing Green Diamond items" story to be a myth. There's no evidence of such other than JH claiming he could replicate his father's signature perfectly (also showing what seems to be his infamous stubborn side) and even then, the paper Steve mentions (which I believe is the one I have attached), is quite off.

Ted signed the highest signature, John Henry the other two.
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:28 PM
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You can see from those examples that John Henry was terrible at signing Ted's name.
But Shelly has said that it was not John Henry doing the forging but that it was coming from Green Diamond.
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Old 12-14-2018, 07:27 PM
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Hello everyone. I got the Ted Williams today. It is amazing. The autograph alone is huge 2x7". Framed and matted it is about 22x25. A great pose. And it's authentic. $200 including matt and framed and shipping. Beautiful in my study. It is a pearl! You guys are great!! Casey

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Old 12-14-2018, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Six View Post
Now that Im feeling completely paranoid, can someone chime in on my recent addition via Steiner????

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This ted is absolutely fine
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