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Old 05-07-2017, 02:11 PM
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Default Anybody think about their own mortality?

I lost my dad in 2011. He had just turned 65 and had retired six months earlier and then one morning had a heart attack and was gone. He was a coin collector. My mom was in poor health, so I had to take care of everything, including his coin collection. I don't know crap about coins, so here we are more than six years later, and Dad's coin collection sits in my garage. It might be worth a few thousand dollars, or a few hundred, or maybe just the face value of the coins. I have no idea.

I am now 13 years away from reaching the date when my dad passed. I got to thinking recently, what will happen to all my cards and stuff when I'm gone? My wife wouldn't know Mickey Mantle from Willie Mays from Ty Cobb. I'm starting to wonder if it isn't smarter to downsize in the event of me not being around to actually sell it all one day. I don't want my stuff sitting in someone's garage. I want them to sell it, make money, and have fun with it. 99% of my collection is raw, but I'm even wondering if I should get everything of value graded to make it easier to liquidate when the time comes (and hopefully, that time comes in about 50 years).

Do you guys have a plan? Do you have a checklist with instructions for your spouse or children on how to sell things, just in case?
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:27 PM
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I gave my wife a rough value of my collection and have had all the obscure stuff graded--she's not going to know that the faded looking card is a Venezuelan and is supposed to look like that and neither would a lot of dealers. I haven't gotten everything graded though as you just don't know who the leading grading company will be in the future.

I hope you have your cards for many years to come! And, I hope you open up your dad's coin collection and enjoy it!
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:34 PM
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Not a bad idea to try to make things more manageable, but I wouldn't get rid of anything you like too much just to accomplish that. An easy solution would be to give your wife the contact info for 2-3 of your hobby friends so that she has a person who your trust to call for advice should something happen to you.

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Old 05-07-2017, 03:15 PM
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Not a bad idea to try to make things more manageable, but I wouldn't get rid of anything you like too much just to accomplish that. An easy solution would be two give your wife the contact info for 2-3 of your hobby friends so that she has a person who your trust to call for advice should something happen to you.
I think there are a number of pretty simple things that can be done including this above:

1) If you have people you really trust in the hobby, make sure your family knows who they are. If you can arrange in advance with them to help should something happen, it would be even more helpful (it would be fair to offer them something, say a percentage in return for helping, but that's a personal decision)

2) Have an inventory list of the items in your collection including where they are located and the value of each item. A simple Excel can be a big help. Labeling the cards with stickers and a basic numbering system that is referenced in the Excel is a big help.

3) The name and contact info of sellers like PWCC (assuming it's vintage cards) and/or auction houses that you would want the items sent.

4) Sell the items you won't miss. I don't think it's a good idea to sell things that you enjoy owning and will miss, but reconsidering what it is you really find joy in and what has been more a matter of the chase and you won't miss can clear up some funds and space and ultimately it could make it a little easier for family when the day comes. Selling items that you will miss in my mind is a mistake. A lifetime of work and effort in something you enjoy shouldn't have to be given up in the golden days of your life unless you need to (in my humble opinion).

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:36 PM
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I'm still young in comparison to the many seasons of life, but I am grateful to have a brother and dad who collect alongside with me. Card collecting isn't really my focus in the big picture (Jesus is), but I have recommended to them that, if they still are living when I pass, to send pretty much everything to PWCC and to keep the cards that have special memories associated with them. Simple and easy!
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My wife knows what to keep in the family and she knows what auction houses I have bought from so she would use one of those or contact Leon for advise.
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I'm an Actuary so I think I deal with mortality everyday, that includes my own. Age and health are always a factor but we probably all have loved ones who we have lost way to soon.

My wife is 10 years older than me so I think she will pass on before me but I've also had a heart attack (10 years ago) and am diabetic. But I feel great and enjoy my card collection every day. Besides watching what I eat and exercise, my only real limitation is not to pick up stuff over 25 pounds (Our late Pug was 27 pounds and needed to be carried up the stairs and I made an exception for her!).

For both my card and toy car collections, I have people my wife, step-children etc. can contact. Most of my baseball cards are in complete sets in binders which I hope makes it easier to deal with. Most of my "rare" cards are graded but there is a whole bunch of oddball stuff that may be overlooked.

I guess it is something I should organize better. Maybe when I retire.

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There is a detailed letter in my 2 safety deposit boxes. Within the 2 page letter is a simple statement; Call Al Crisafulli- (XXX)- XXX-XXXX

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There is a detailed letter in my 2 safety deposit boxes. Within the 2 page letter is a simple statement; Call Al Crisafulli- (XXX)- XXX-XXXX
My wife and I have had the AL C talk,too!! Great fellow to have to turn to!!
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Old 05-07-2017, 04:25 PM
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My wife knows cards fairly well. Enough to know what's junk and what's good. It's one of the side effects of discussing purchases over a certain amount. (Same for the stamps and the bicycles and random other stuff. )

And the kids are being taught, but slowly.

Hopefully I last long enough for them to be stable in their lives and for them to know what stuff they'd want to hang on to. (Like 20+ years from now, but you never know....)

Helping a friend go through their brothers stuff and connecting them with an auctioneer that was specialized instead of a general antiques dealer also helped me work to get things better organized. Not there yet, but it's a bit better.

Some of the better cards I've gotten graded to make things a bit simpler for them.

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I took a few cards out of raw sets and sent them to PSA last month. I've always wanted raw cards in my raw sets, but cards like Clemente, Koufax, and Aaron rookies just seem like they need to be in slabs for resale. But, there are a lot of cards. And other stuff.
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Why post a thread like this on a baseball card forum? What? At least use the water cooler section.
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I'm actually dealing with this right now. My little brother who was 41 died suddenly on Friday and I'm helping my parents go through his stuff. He wasn't into cards or coins but loved old obscure things that we don't know the value of or what his wishes were in what to do with them. Do your loved ones a favor and create a will or at least write down your wishes and then give them each a hug and tell em you love em cuz you never know when your times up.
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Very sorry for your loss AJ. That's so young.
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I'm actually dealing with this right now. My little brother who was 41 died suddenly on Friday and I'm helping my parents go through his stuff. He wasn't into cards or coins but loved old obscure things that we don't know the value of or what his wishes were in what to do with them. Do your loved ones a favor and create a will or at lest write down your wishes and then give them each a hug and tell em you love em cuz you never know when your times up.
Sorry for your loss. Thoughts and prayers to his/your family.
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Sorry for your loss AJ. Unfortunately I know the feeling...Time helps somewhat...
As for the mortality subject, I need to go over that again with the wifey on where to send things. Does anyone have Battlefields number?

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I'm actually dealing with this right now. My little brother who was 41 died suddenly on Friday and I'm helping my parents go through his stuff. He wasn't into cards or coins but loved old obscure things that we don't know the value of or what his wishes were in what to do with them. Do your loved ones a favor and create a will or at lest write down your wishes and then give them each a hug and tell em you love em cuz you never know when your times up.
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ajjohnsonsoxfan... I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
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I'm actually dealing with this right now. My little brother who was 41 died suddenly on Friday and I'm helping my parents go through his stuff. He wasn't into cards or coins but loved old obscure things that we don't know the value of or what his wishes were in what to do with them. Do your loved ones a favor and create a will or at least write down your wishes and then give them each a hug and tell em you love em cuz you never know when your times up.
Sorry for your loss, AJ. I'm going to a service tomorrow for my future son-in-law's aunt who died last Saturday. She went for a physical every year and had no symptoms, but was diagnosed with Stage 4 uterine cancer on April 13. She was 52.

While I don't technically have a "plan" for my cards, my wife is aware of the short list of people with whom I routinely communicate about my cards. In addition to that, there is a list of dealers (which I will hopefully keep current) that my kids can deal with if they decide no one wants to hold on to the cards.

These days I'm all about family dinners, family vacations (we're all going to Ireland this summer), and having the kids down to our shore house as much as possible. They're going to miss me when I'm gone, but I'll probably miss them more.
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Good topic-

This coming mothers day got me thinking, this will be the first time in my life I will not be sending flowers to my mother, who passed last summer. Seems like a mistake not to send them, an oversight.

Have a Last Will and Testament and left detailed instructions for my family how to sell my stuff; even so, the wife says to me "don't you dare leave me with all those cards", so I have begun to downsize a bit and just keep the ones I really like. I was probably over-extended anyway, easy to get carried away by this hobby.

I'm in the medical field which is generally a positive but one of the downsides is the near daily exposure to death and disease. Yeah, I think about mortality, probably too much for my own good.

Life is short and precious guys, enjoy while it lasts.

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