PSA Vs. SGC

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Buster#1

I was very disgusted with the pwcc/psa
News.
Im not an expert grader but have been coached by a expert....don't know if he's the best...but i would argue that he may be.
Every gosh darn mistake i made in the hobby
He warned me of and was too stupid to listen
I was so f....g lucky not to lose my ass.
He and i discussed so much over the last couple of years....like half grades and 9s compared to 8s.
My friend was so right
Really...there isn't anyone really in the hobby that can tell between a 8 or a 8.5
Or an 88 or a 92.
Just confuses collector's....no disrespect
No auction owner in this hobby can actually tell u its a 86 or an 84 or a 6.5 or a 7
I've invested 100s of thousands in cards and have not lost my ass....i just love cards and making deals....its my gambling
I don't visit casinos.
What i should have learned from my friend is that u get a good shake from sgc overall
What u pay for an sgc is honest and u get the same honest price out of it if u sell if u bought it at a avg sgc price.
PSA has been the strong and the standard
But now i believe sgc is the strong and the honest when it comes to your dollar.
I have gone back n forth w psa and sgc trying to figure it out
Sgc cards are legitimate
Most PSA cards r too.
But from now on...
I am not talking the chance.....
We r talking big big money

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Who is this expert you speak of?

[Copa7]

I was never a fan of PSA before the scandal, and I'm even more weary now.

For what I collect, historically, PSA are one of the most, if not THE most incompetent grader / researchers in the hobby.

I used to keep a computer file on all the mislabeled, mistakes PSA distributed to the collecting world. Its soon became abundant in my collecting circles that PSA was very unreliable. So we agreed to shut them out. They are not familiar with the materials being submitted, but even worse, didn't do simple google to find out. (I found the cards and sets in less than 5 minutes online)

Needless to say, my interest is not financial, so I will not speak of which company is a better investment except that if you are buying PSA cards that are counterfeit or even worse, fantasy cards, it's your mistake. Caviat Emptor.


I'm playing it safe as PSA has a good possibility of becoming worthless property (yes, I know they have die hard supporters, but so did Hitler and Stalin.) I'm selling off my PSA to those die hard supporters. Yes, I'm profiting from their zeal.

I won't be stuck with tarnished goods.

I'll also be glad to share my finding to anyone who comes to the National. (ask for booth and contact through pm)

Happy hunting

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Who is this expert you speak of?

He sounds formidable.

[Oscar_Stanage]

I am preparing a submission of about 25 cards, some 33 Goudeys, T206, and a bunch of 50s and 60s HOFers- Mantles, Aarons and others.

I decided on SGC as they seem to be on par with PSA in pre-war and 60s. And overall, I prefer a lot of things about SGC. However, as I am recording my expected grades and looking up values, I noticed some cards have large discrepancies from PSA.

For example, a 1938 Goudey Heads up Bump Hadley.... I look up 5s, 6s and 7s and there has not been an SGC recorded sale on any of these - EVER. Plenty for PSA. Now, I do not plan on selling anytime soon, but is it not a problem that that there is literally no sale activity on their cards other than the superstars? I guess this stems from lack of registry?