Will the joe namath rookie card Topps 1965 become the next Mantle 52?

[MRSPORTSCARDCOLLECTOR]

I see similarities.
Both Icons,
Both New York Icons.
Joe Namath is now hitting the memorabilia circuit like Mickey Mantle did in the 1980s and 1990s.

My conclusion is the Joe Namath rookie card is extremly undervalued and will jump in price over this next decade.
Any thoughts on this?

btw I am a long time lurker, and this is my first post.

[LuckyLarry]

Originally Posted by BASEBALLCARDGURU

My conclusion is the Joe Namath rookie card is extremly undervalued and will jump in price over this next decade.
Any thoughts on this?

Welcome Guru

Boy I don't know if the Namath is "extremely undervalued" it's already an expensive card. Of course vintage football cards in general are undervalued compared to baseball cards.

I wonder how many of the '52 Topps (DP) Mantle cards are out there compared to the '65 Topps (SP) Namath?

At major card shows, I bet I see more '52 Topps Mantles than I see the '65 Topps Namath card. But I don't see the Namath RC approaching the levels that Mantle brings.

Larry

[PowderedH2O]

If you look at how iconic the 1952 baseball set is, that plays a part. The tall boys are popular, but not nearly to the same extent. Plus, Namath's career was nowhere near Mantle's. I see the Namath card being popular, but never bringing anything near the Mantle levels.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think not. Namath is according to most experts not even among the top 100 players of all time.

Welcome to the board. This was recently discussed here, when the topic switched to Mt. Rushmore of football cards, posts 60-65: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=210598

Some collectors are obviously in your corner on this subject for many of the same reasons you mention; "I equate it to the 1952 Topps Mantle version of football cards. Short print from a popular set, charismatic NY star and unrealized potential due to injury (what-if-mystique)" Scott G.

I do not see it, but I'm too young and on the opposite coast. I probably do not understand the spell Namath may still have over the city of New York.

[jefferyepayne]

So the question remains: if not Namath, who?

What card is going to rise up and become the Topps 52 Mantle of football over time?

Thoughts?

jeff

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

So the question remains: if not Namath, who?

What card is going to rise up and become the Topps 52 Mantle of football over time?

Thoughts?

jeff

Not sure that any card will. Unlike baseball, the relatively early stars (Graham, Baugh, Motley, Hutson, etc.) just do not seem to be revered. Not sure why that is. Football is as or more popular than baseball as a sport but the history seems much less important to fans and collectors. By the time you get to Unitas and Brown the cards are so plentiful even in high grade that I just don't see it. Nagurski is a logical candidate on some criteria I guess, but does anyone really care?

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

So the question remains: if not Namath, who?

What card is going to rise up and become the Topps 52 Mantle of football over time?

Thoughts?

jeff

No card. I'm not even sure the Namath will maintain it's current price range. Even Chicle prices seem to be returning to earth, and with it the price of Nags. I'd rather have a '59 Bazooka Jim Brown than a '58 keyhole RC. In fact, I'd probably rather have a '59 Bazooka Johnny Unitas than a '57 RC. As previously mentioned the '76 Payton or '81 Montana are too numerous. For this collector, the '77 Largent distributed in Mexico is the prize of my collection, but not a famous enough card. Had Largent parlayed his gig in Congress to a term in the White House it may be a different story NO card, final answer.

[RedlegsFan]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

So the question remains: if not Namath, who?



What card is going to rise up and become the Topps 52 Mantle of football over time?



Thoughts?



jeff

There will never be another.




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[LuckyLarry]

looks like the ladies prefer Joe

[LuckyLarry]

[LuckyLarry]

I just picked up an upgrade '65 Topps Namath RC on eBay, it arrived today Card had an opening bid of $300 or BIN $450 and it went to the final seconds with no bids, until two snipes kicked in. I won it for $392 with free shipping. What was nice is the auction ended during an eBay "5X Bonus Bucks", so I collected $39.20 in eBay bucks and my purchase price "total" $352.80.
The upgrade is nice except for the paper loss on "NEW YORK" on the front. I'm packing up both cards, and sending them off Monday to SGC for grading.
Larry

[Hot Springs Bathers]

I agree with everything said so far. Pro football really did not take off until the early 60's, while it is romantic to think the 1958 sudden death game was the launching point it was really the competition not only between the NFL and AFL but also the competition between the networks.

Joe Willie was just in the right place at the right time. I am so turned off by the media, especially ESPN that constantly refers to teams "World Championships" referring exclusively to their Super Bowl titles ignoring the pre-66 titles. The Steelers, 49ers and Cowboys are impressive but don't forget the Packers and Bears.

The history is just not celebrated by the media or the "League" like it is in baseball.

[MRSPORTSCARDCOLLECTOR]

Originally Posted by BASEBALLCARDGURU

I see similarities.
Both Icons,
Both New York Icons.
Joe Namath is now hitting the memorabilia circuit like Mickey Mantle did in the 1980s and 1990s.

My conclusion is the Joe Namath rookie card is extremly undervalued and will jump in price over this next decade.
Any thoughts on this?

btw I am a long time lurker, and this is my first post.

Quick bump because as pointed out in another thread!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-F...368&rmvSB=true

This is proof that Joe Namath RC has some juice. He owned New York in the 1960s and 1970s.

[MRSPORTSCARDCOLLECTOR]

Seems like the Joe Namath rookie card market still has some life since I last posted. lol.

[Blackie]

It for sure is an iconic card.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by MRSPORTSCARDCOLLECTOR

Quick bump because as pointed out in another thread!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-F...368&rmvSB=true

This is proof that Joe Namath RC has some juice. He owned New York in the 1960s and 1970s.

And Mantle 8.5 sold for 1.135 million dollars. Namath will never be Mantle. Mantle won 7 championships, Namath won 1.

[samosa4u]

Here is a link to Superbowl III below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5GnZCxqIw

I think that the Joe Namath RC still has plenty of room to grow. PSA 7 examples are going for $5,000 - $6,000 USD, and that's nothing IMO. If you are going to pick one up, try to get one without the tilt.

Merry Christmas!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Here is a link to Superbowl III below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5GnZCxqIw

I think that the Joe Namath RC still has plenty of room to grow. PSA 7 examples are going for $5,000 - $6,000 USD, and that's nothing IMO. If you are going to pick one up, try to get one without the tilt.

Merry Christmas!

I wouldn't call it nothing. How many other 60s regular issue cards go for that much in a 7? Orr, anyone else?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Here is a link to Superbowl III below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5GnZCxqIw

I think that the Joe Namath RC still has plenty of room to grow. PSA 7 examples are going for $5,000 - $6,000 USD, and that's nothing IMO. If you are going to pick one up, try to get one without the tilt.

Merry Christmas!

Just 8 years ago it was a $1500-$2,000 card and stayed in that range for quite a long time. Not sure if the runup is sustainable....but it is an iconic card.

[Blackie]

They are pretty cards Bobby .........here is the one i have

Namath.jpg