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Old 07-19-2019, 07:43 PM
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Yeah, if only it wasn't real.
So what exactly is the argument against Hall? PSA? Is he a conspirator for Brent Huigens? Where does this nonsense end? I sold David Hall several cards that were SGC graded....

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Old 07-19-2019, 07:44 PM
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Thanks Adam...Spot on....People, move on will you? All of this shit is ridiculous and it has consumed this forum for 6 freaking months! By the way, David is laughing his ass off.....
LOL. Not going to move on until some people are in jail and PSA and Beckett confess to their inability to detect alterations. We are still very early in this story.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:46 PM
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So what exactly is the argument against Hall? PSA? Is he a conspirator for Brent Huigens? Where does this nonsense end? I sold David Hall several cards that were SGC graded....
I didn't say anything specifically against Hall other than pointing out that if he had his graders grade his own cards, that's a note of caution. More generally, I believe lots of high grade T206s are altered. Nothing to do with Brent Huigens. The problem with altered cards goes much deeper than him.

As for PSA, I wouldn't even know where to begin at this point. I'll spare you. Read.
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I didn't say anything specifically against Hall other than pointing out that if he had his graders grade his own cards, that's a note of caution. More generally, I believe lots of high grade T206s are altered. Nothing to do with Brent Huigens. The problem with altered cards goes much deeper than him.

As for PSA, I wouldn't even know where to begin at this point. I'll spare you. Read.
Peter, These freaking threads go on and on and on....Where does it end? These posts on N54 are every single week with no resolve. People said Brent Huigens would be out of business, guess what? He's not. 2 or 3 years ago it was Probstein being put out of business, guess what? he's not....So who's to blame? Now David Hall?

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Peter, These freaking threads go on and on and on....Where does it end? These posts on N54 are every single week with no resolve. People said Brent Huigens would be out of business, guess what? He's not. 2 or 3 years ago it was Probstein being put out of business, guess what? he's not....
It's up to the federal government where it ends at this point. They are investigating, we shall see.
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Peter, These freaking threads go on and on and on....Where does it end? These posts on N54 are every single week with no resolve. People said Brent Huigens would be out of business, guess what? He's not. 2 or 3 years ago it was Probstein being put out of business, guess what? he's not....So who's to blame? Now David Hall?
maybe just stick to the BST then. concentrate on selling your beer steins, “gem stones” and necklaces.
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maybe just stick to the BST then. concentrate on selling your beer steins, “gem stones” and necklaces.
What a freaking idiot you are....Spell your name out will you? You are such a dumbass....

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Old 07-19-2019, 08:36 PM
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maybe just stick to the BST then. concentrate on selling your beer steins, “gem stones” and necklaces.
Its amazing how you've noticed all the listings...Are you obsessed? Why are you focused on my items? Very, very weird.....

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Kevin why don’t you go back to buying OC’s and stay out of a conversation you know nothing about.
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A totally amazing auction. I cant wait for the next round. All my pick-ups will be posted in the July pick-ups page.

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Old 07-19-2019, 11:31 PM
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A very expensive auction for me.
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A very expensive auction for me.
I may have cost you some serious coin on the Wajo BL 460 and Drum, as I was the under-bidder on both; and I concede the Drum.... Whoever was on the other side of those would not give up. And that Plank, holy cow. I know it would likely go for a lot, but OMG.

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Old 07-19-2019, 11:59 PM
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You know who was on the other side.
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Overall a great auction with a mix of great deals and some record setting prices. It looks like the chance of me getting a Plank is slowly disappearing.
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How much time do you need to unload altered high grade cards before we can get back to it?

The amount of denial and deflection is frankly more bothersome than the altering and fraud..
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How much time do you need to unload altered high grade cards before we can get back to it?

The amount of denial and deflection is frankly more bothersome than the altering and fraud..
The Kool Aid tastes just as good as ever, Steve.
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seems like a mixture
I just spoke to the user Tilbor. It definitely wasn't a shill. The user didn't understand but does now. He is a very nice person and was apologetic. Now he knows the rules. Our anonymity rule is different than almost any other forum. And actually, he didn't really give an opinion of a company or person, however, shills are going to need a name. But again, definitely not one. He was being sincere in his comment.
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There will be three auctions in 2019 with his cards. Auction 50015 which is July 18-20 will be the first. Session Two (Lots 81736 – 81923) will end on July 19 are dedicated to Mr. Hall's cards. In September and December there will be dedicated auctions for his collection. All three will have a dedicated catalog. All three covers will form one panoramic-style scene as will the back covers.

And yes, there will be more coming in 2020 and I will post updates as plans and schedules become finalized.

Good Luck and Thank You to Everyone Who Participates,

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Now that the first three auctions are done, do we know what the plans are for 2020? I see Auction #4 is scheduled for 4/16 but anymore details on how many auctions or the 'themes' of each auction? Thanks!
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