NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-06-2007, 10:09 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Randy Trierweiler

Lets see the real rare Topps Test stuff. I'll start it out with these:








Leon, sorry about the size. I haven't figured this out yet, Randy




















Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-06-2007, 08:37 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Dave Hornish

Randy:

Is that Disc rimmed and trimmed by Topps? Looks like a more advanced proof than most of these.

I'll post some goodies this weekend-busy, busy right now.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-06-2007, 08:52 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Randy Trierweiler

Hi Dave, the Cepeda disc is a proof. The back is white and blank, but shows some blue bleeding thru. I bought it from Bob Bostoff at the St. Louis National in 1996. I haven't seen another in this form yet. Can't wait to see your stuff. Randy

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-06-2007, 09:02 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

I'll throw a couple out there. Fun thread!




Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-06-2007, 09:17 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Randy Trierweiler

Bob, very nice. Do you have the 1970 Rich Nye cloth? Any idea how many exist? Randy

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-06-2007, 09:25 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Randy,

No, I don't have the Nye (rats). I have Gentry, Hartenstein, Higgins, Laboy, Motton, NL Playoff Game 3, Niekro, and Santorini. I also have partial cards (located at the edge of the sheet, similar to the '72 cloth sheet if you've seen that one) of Alston, Culp, and Lowell Palmer.

I have no idea how many exist. I've never seen two of the same player, but that doesn't mean much. I passed on a Jerry McNerty in the '80s because the guy wanted $100 and I wanted to pay $75. I'm an idiot.

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-06-2007, 09:37 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Anthony

Bob- throw up all of your disks and standups, those are amazing.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-07-2007, 12:23 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Kevin Saucier

Hell Bob, throw up just about anything in your collecion!


Here is one of mine:




Plus (alhtough it's post 1980) I have "three" nicely cut complete sets of 1984 Topps encapsulated




Kevin

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-07-2007, 02:57 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

1967 Topps SF Giants Test Discs:


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul S

Can you imagine if Willie had been Mayor of SF during the Summer of Love? Man, he'd be playing with an Afro, strings of love beads, drawstring pants, and cleated sandals!

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-07-2007, 06:27 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Dave Hornish

OK, I found some time and scanned a few. Here are some of my favorites from my Topps type set:

Best $60 I ever spent on a card, I think:



This "large" Hocus Focus was a lot tougher to land than I thought it would be:



Now for some 60's goodness. 67 Punchout of one of my all time favorite Mets:



67 & 68 Discs:



This is a 68 Action All Star Proof from the Topps Vault:



Front and back of the 68 AL Plak Checklist( a favorite):



Probably the one card I would keep if forced at gunpoint to give them all up but one:



Here's a tough Topps 68 Deckle Test/Proof featuring a minor leaguer to boot:



I'll display some 70's oddballs in the next post.









Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-07-2007, 06:44 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Dave Hornish

I like the stuff from the 70's a lot, maybe even more than the 60's stuff.

Here is a 72 Candy Lid Proof (Ebay last year, $11-I was the only bidder):



Here's a 73 Pinup (I do not have a Comic yet):



I had half a set of these until recently and kept "Furillo", which has markings on the back that lead me to believe it may have been Woody Gelman's at one point:



The Sticker and Much tougher Cardboard version of the 73 Action Emblems, plus the Coin Rub Game that came with it:




I remember seeing this on This Week in Baseball in the 70's:



A 74 Puzzle of Bonds (I like the Seaver wrapper better):



And I need three for the set (very tough to complete these 74 Stamp Albums):



And a nice pair of 76 Test Cloths:



Well, that was fun!





Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-07-2007, 08:41 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Very cool stuff!!! Thanks for sharing!

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-07-2007, 08:43 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Dave Adlesh is sad that you called him a minor leaguer even though he had been with Houston for 5 years at that point.

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-07-2007, 09:11 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Dave Hornish

Bob-quite right, I was thinking 1969 and it looks like he was MLB thru 68. Ah, well. Still, a night time shot is pretty cool....

Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-07-2007, 09:13 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Randy Trierweiler

Dave, very nice stuff. I will post some more tomorrow night.

Bob, have you ever seen a 1967 Punchout Bob Gibson?

I've been looking for over 12 years, I've never seen one.

I talked to Steve Werley at the National, he said it exists.

I also talked to a guy that only needed 5 for the set, and Gibson was one of them.

Anybody have any Plaks or 1955 Stamps?

Randy

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-07-2007, 10:31 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Andrew



"Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-08-2007, 05:39 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Randy,

Never seen a Gibson Punchout either. Al (swaps55) has an almost complete set, so hopefully he'll chime in about the Gibson. I'm also not sure whether that's one of the few that Larry (sflayank on CU) is missing.

Since you talked to Steve W. at the National, he probably mentioned the large number of Punchout panels that he had recently seen. Gibson was not on any of those.

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-08-2007, 06:35 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Al

I still need 6 to complete that set, including Gibson. Larry also needs that one. I have not seen it in any condition. Nor have I seen the Brooks Robinson that is supposed to be in that set.

Dave--great picture of Carl Furillo. How do you suppose Topps managed to get 3 of the 8 cards in that set wrong ? Also, I mailed you one of the 80 scratch off games. Per our prior e mails, I still do not think they had anything to do with the 80 test coins. The big book list 4 different materials used in the 76 Cloth prototypes, which version is the one you picutred if you can tell ? Did you know each of the 68 deckle prototypes come with any of three different colored autographs, red, blue and black. I know one obsessed collector who has the "set" all three ways, but don't worry Bob, I will not name him. Also, did you know there is a 1991 version of the 76 Garagiola card you posted.

Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-08-2007, 05:06 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Dave Hornish

Yeah, Topps had a bad day at the factory with those 53 Reprints!

The 76 Cloth have a backing and are similar to the 77's in texture. I also have what is likely the sheerest of the 4 types as well in separate pieces. I missed out on an Ebay auction that had three of the four and the other two I did not have looked like thicker and thicker again versions of the sheer, flannel like ones.

I still need the blue and black 68 Deckle Proofs. I have seen them and passed at what were good prices last year and regret that now. I relly need to get to the next National to search for some of the remaining types I need for the Topps run from 49-80.

I was not aware of the 91 Garagiola at all. I cut everything I collect (or at least track and try to obtain) off at 1980 although I do have some research material on post 80's stuff and have a bunch of 80's issues but I haven't tried to checklist all those sets and then what I have as well. Not enough time in the day unfortunately to do that any time soon.

I have to say I am not regretting just going after a type of each of the Topps issues. The values on someare really zooming right now.

Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-09-2007, 08:45 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul

Bob,

Does that Dice Game card have a very light crease on one corner? If so, it used to be mine. I miss it.

Paul

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-09-2007, 11:16 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Paul,

It misses you too. Sometimes it cries.

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-09-2007, 02:39 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: JimCrandell

Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-09-2007, 03:10 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Anthony

Jim- have you had any issues with cracking on that card, or any others in the set?

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-09-2007, 04:13 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul

Here are all three types of Candy Lids.

Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-09-2007, 05:22 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Paul,

Awesome lids!! If you ever want to make another card miss you, please send the '72 Seaver Candy Lid to me please.

Jim,

Beautiful Clemente!! Glad you (or Al) got the scanner working!

Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-09-2007, 08:33 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: JimCrandell

Anthony,

No--don't think so. I have 10 of the 12 in high grade--missing Powell and Flood.

Have you seen many in holders which have cracked?

Jim

Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-10-2007, 12:57 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Anthony

I"ve heard of a lot of stories of Kellogg's cracking in the holders, it seems to always be from collectors in cold climates. Last I checked none of mine had cracked, but cold here is 65 degrees. I would think since the same company produced the Topps as the Kellogg's that the same issues would be encountered.

Bob, have you had any issues with yours cracking?

Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-10-2007, 01:11 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul S

My Kellogg's 3D-s (not test issues, and not in holders) tend to warp. Maybe those that are restrained from this tendancy, such as those in a holder, cause the card to instead crack -- sort of like the weakest link in a chain...the card is "looking" to give at some part. (Anyway that's my theory...conversely, I could be full it it.)

Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-10-2007, 05:53 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul

Bob,

My Seaver collection will be buried with me. I've never seen another of that 72/73/borderless whatever-the-heck-it-is candy lid. Years ago, Brian Morris told me that the borderless lids were just the first few print runs of the '73 set, and that all of the '73 lids are available in this format. You sure don't see them too often.

Paul

Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 09-11-2007, 05:27 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Anthony,

No cracking yet (knock on wood).

Paul,

I've never seen a round Seaver in the borderless lids (until now). I've got the square cut proof (shown below) and quite a few round lids of other players. I agree that it most likely was an early printing of the '73s rather than a separate '72 issue. The box design for the '73s shows pictures of borderless lids.

Please start a Seaver thread. I'd be very interested in seeing what you (and others) have of George Thomas.

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 09-12-2007, 05:47 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

Here's a Carew round '72 lid and a '73 Topps Comics Seaver:



Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 09-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Anonymous

Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 09-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Bob

What's that Seaver card? I've never seen that before. (awesome Ryan)

Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 09-12-2007, 07:29 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul

I'll try to start a Seaver thread this weekend. I'll need to scan a few of my more unusual ones.

Bob, if you have any borderless candy lids that you want to let go of, please let me know. That Carew is great.

Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 09-12-2007, 08:57 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Frank Evanov



Frank

Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 09-13-2007, 07:51 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Anonymous

The blue Seaver is just a regular 1971 card missing the black ink. Underneath the black ink on 71’s there’s the blue dot pattern you see above. If you look closely at a normal 1971 card around the lettering and inner white border you’ll see traces of the blue dots at spots.

Here's a picture borrowed from a Topps Vault auction showing a 1970 Seaver version which you don't see every day.

Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 09-13-2007, 06:09 PM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul

Redmanchewer or anyone knowledeable of 1970s printing techniques:

Do you know if Topps needed to actually produce the Tom Seaver card shown on the 1970 cello box in order to make the box? Or could Topps have just made the box without ever making the card? I'd sure love that card / proof / mock-up if it exists.

Paul

Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 09-15-2007, 09:09 AM
Archive Archive is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 58,359
Default Rare Topps Test Issues

Posted By: Paul S

Frank -- I'm breaking a commandment by coventing my neighbor's Mantle. A beaut!

Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 10-05-2009, 07:57 PM
hcv123 hcv123 is offline
Howard Chasser
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 3,422
Default Clemente Test issues

Anyone know anything about this - 1967 Topps Pinup Sticker - Sticker backing similar to 1967 Pirate stickers and 1968 Action all star stickers, glossy front, no #??

Always looking for Rare Topps Test issues to add to the Clemente Colllection - 1966 Punchout (Does it exist? Would love a scan if not for sale), 1967-1968 Disc. Thanks.

-Howard

Ps. Check out my next post for another real rarity!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 67 Test sticker.jpg (36.1 KB, 272 views)
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 10-05-2009, 08:01 PM
hcv123 hcv123 is offline
Howard Chasser
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 3,422
Default 1971 Bazook Numbered

Anyone know where I can get a sheet like this cleanly cut? Here's some incentive - I'd be willing to sell some panels if I could get it cut!! Anyone know what the story is with these - seem to be "plenty" of singles around, but I own the only panels I've ever seen - 1 set and this uncut sheet. Anybody. Anybody.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1971 bazooka test sheet.jpg (77.3 KB, 310 views)
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 10-05-2009, 08:20 PM
toppcat's Avatar
toppcat toppcat is offline
Dave.Horn.ish
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,800
Default There is no known 66 Clemente Punchout

I may have created the misconception the Clemente exists a long time ago based upon an erroneous assumption on my part but have seen no confirmation it does. Here is the known 66 PO checklist:

http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/se...%20Punchboards

However, there are possibly a few more out there if my theories are correct so it's possible I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 10-05-2009, 08:26 PM
sflayank sflayank is offline
larry s
larry ser.ota
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 4,692
Default topps test

dave
what happened to the guy with the punchouts
did he ever tell u if they all have the instructions?
ill start the bidding at ???? for the lot
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 10-06-2009, 06:05 PM
hcv123 hcv123 is offline
Howard Chasser
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 3,422
Default topps test

Dave,

Thanks for the update on the 66 punchouts. I bought the 66 PO from the Mastro auction 10 years ago. Unfortunately, I sold it 9 years and 11 months ago. I don't know if you've confirmed through your research multiple copies of any of them , but the one I sold went to a Mays collector, so if the guy who has the small group of them has the Mays (and is not the Mays collector), they produced at least 2.
I too would be interested in taking a shot at buying some/all of them. Larry - Firstly I think you'll need an extra ? in your starting bid - Secondly, I'll split them with you
Any comments/info on the 67 Pinup Sticker I posted?? How about were a guy can get a 1971 Bazooka numbered sheet cut?

-Howard

Last edited by hcv123; 10-06-2009 at 06:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 10-06-2009, 07:29 PM
sflayank sflayank is offline
larry s
larry ser.ota
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 4,692
Default topps test

hi
yes i should have put 5 ????? in my bid
im just hoping it doesnt need 6
larry
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 10-07-2009, 04:38 PM
toppcat's Avatar
toppcat toppcat is offline
Dave.Horn.ish
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,800
Default

The '66 Punchouts in the large collection had finished backs from what I remember of it; I can't find the confirming e-mail at present though. I haven't heard from the gent in months but he was hanging on to the cards at least until the economy improves IMO. He didn't seem in a hurry to consign them, that's for sure.

I was trying to confirm the Mays in Mastro so this is good intel here. I believe another Mays exists as well in addition to the one in the gent's collection but it could be the resale of the Mastro one. Our man had duplicate copies of some as well, not sure which ones. I believe 2-4 copies of each probably are known at this point, similar to the pop of the '61 Dice Game cards.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 10-07-2009, 04:41 PM
toppcat's Avatar
toppcat toppcat is offline
Dave.Horn.ish
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,800
Default

Oh yeah, the 67 Pinup Clemente Sticker-I want to compare the sig to the one in the latest Clemente thread on this board, which has a solid blue auto of similar vintage. Will try that later if I have time (may not). I am presently thinking that sticker was a one-off produced at Topps as a lark, the quality is realy to good for it to be a fake I think believe.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 10-07-2009, 04:59 PM
docpatlv's Avatar
docpatlv docpatlv is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,327
Default

Dave,

I posted the Clemente sig in the other thread. Although the sig on the 67 pin-up is close, I am 99.99% certain it is not legit. I have about 12 Clemente sigs and have collected him for a long time. I did a fair amount of research on his auto too in the past, and I don't believe it's good. I have talked with other serious Clemente collectors over the years, and we've had discussions about one of Clemente's friends (associate?) who used to sign some of his mail.

I have a couple of examples similar to the one on the 67 pin-up that I purchased early on and from experience and discussions with other Clemente collectors I began to differentiate legit and non-legit. Once you've seen a significant amount of signatures, it becomes easier to pick them out.

Mike
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 10-07-2009, 05:06 PM
toppcat's Avatar
toppcat toppcat is offline
Dave.Horn.ish
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,800
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by docpatlv View Post
Dave,

I posted the Clemente sig in the other thread. Although the sig on the 67 pin-up is close, I am 99.99% certain it is not legit. I have about 12 Clemente sigs and have collected him for a long time. I did a fair amount of research on his auto too in the past, and I don't believe it's good. I have talked with other serious Clemente collectors over the years, and we've had discussions about one of Clemente's friends (associate?) who used to sign some of his mail.

I have a couple of examples similar to the one on the 67 pin-up that I purchased early on and from experience and discussions with other Clemente collectors I began to differentiate legit and non-legit. Once you've seen a significant amount of signatures, it becomes easier to pick them out.

Mike
Hmmm-back to the drawing board on the sticker I guess....that's really too bad because now it's just a defaced Topps rarity. Wonder who mailed it to him for his ghost signature?
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 10-07-2009, 05:13 PM
hcv123 hcv123 is offline
Howard Chasser
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 3,422
Default

I have not had the signature checked out by anyone so I do not know if opinion would leave it good or bad. That said, I HAVE had the Pin up sticker under a 20 power loop. Having been the unfortunate victim of counterfeits in the past, I took a REAL good look at the sticker - I saw nothing that would indicate to me it was a counterfeit. It has been a little while, but if my memory serves me correctly, the print was much tighter on the sticker than on an actual 67 pinup - to me indicating it would have to have been printed from an original source (How did they print these things back then?). Dave if it would help I could do a magnified high res scan of a part of it to share what I saw - even putting it next to a pin up. Probably wouldn't get to this for a while as life is a bit crazy now.

-Howard
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
topps test issues where are they Archive Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 13 04-17-2010 09:45 AM
regionla test issues etc rare stuff lets see some of these Archive Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 1 10-09-2008 02:05 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:26 AM.


ebay GSB