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Old 08-11-2017, 11:47 AM
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Default Mantle fake?

Just wanted to verify this is a fake. It appears based on info from Google that it is. But I don't know Mick's autograph like you guys on the board do. Which brings me to 2 additional questions....

1. Is pretty much everything with a COA from Guaranteed Forensic Authentication (GFA) bogus?

2. Are there basic things to look for in a Mantle autograph to tell whether it is legit or a fake?

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Old 08-11-2017, 02:14 PM
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1) Yes it is bad
2) I don't think you can ever say that everything is bad that is certed by any company, but GFA is not thought of as one of the best to my knowledge.
3) Many in here refrain from posting specifics due to the fact that we don't want to educate the scammers that are likely reading this forum as well. In this auto the give away is the M's. they are just bad.
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Okay, follow up question. What is the general reliability of authentications from The Score Board, Inc. signed by Ken Goldin? Is that the same Goldin that runs Goldin Auctions now?

Thoughts?
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:59 PM
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GFA (Stephen Rocchi) was started in Sept. 2011.

I have yet to see an authentic Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Mays or Koufax with a COA from GFA.

Rocchi charges $25.00 for his so-called "Forensic Examination."

What the heck does forensics have to do with opining autographs!!!



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Old 08-11-2017, 04:34 PM
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GFA (Stephen Rocchi) was started in Sept. 2011.

I have yet to see an authentic Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Mays or Koufax with a COA from GFA.

Rocchi charges $25.00 for his so-called "Forensic Examination."

What the heck does forensics have to do with opining autographs!!!



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I also saw an Ali & DiMaggio photo with the GFA COA. Should one assume the same with the Ali?
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:39 PM
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I also saw an Ali & DiMaggio photo with the GFA COA. Should one assume the same with the Ali?
Personally, I have yet to see one authentic autograph with a COA from Rocchi and his GFA Group.

Not one.
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Okay, follow up question. What is the general reliability of authentications from The Score Board, Inc. signed by Ken Goldin? Is that the same Goldin that runs Goldin Auctions now?

Thoughts?
Score Board is good, same Goldin.......
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:22 PM
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Score Board is good, same Goldin.......
The only issue is that scammers over the last 5-7 years have used old Scoreboard certs (and copies and edited versions) to sell forgeries.

The majority of those who buy autographs, purchase the cert and not the autograph.


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The only issue is that scammers over the last 5-7 years have used old Scoreboard certs (and copies and edited versions) to sell forgeries.

The majority of those who buy autographs, purchase the cert and not the autograph.


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The only issue is that scammers over the last 5-7 years have used old Scoreboard certs (and copies and edited versions) to sell forgeries.

The majority of those who buy autographs, purchase the cert and not the autograph.


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I guess that's the point of the cert. For someone like me who only has autographs he has had personally signed or given to me from someone I know, I can't tell a fake from the real thing. So if I see an item that looks cool, I have to rely on a cert.

Here are a couple of pieces from The Sports Card, Inc that caught my eye.
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Score Board is good, same Goldin.......
If I remember correctly though they had a box of their certs stolen from a loading dock. While I trust them, I have unfortunately run across any number of fakes with their cert.
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Same ken goldin, yes...goldin auctions

he rose from obscuresville, usa....to start the auction company

scoreboard certs are worthless as they are plain paper certs that dont belong to any particular item.
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