Topps Venezuelans

[clydepepper]

New Purchase:

1967 Topps Venezuelan- Luis Tiant Caracas.jpg

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

New Purchase:

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Can't see it

EDIT: I can when I reply. Weird.

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

New Purchase:

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I’ve never seen this card before... Nice!

[tdawg]

Greetings!
I tend to be lurker here, but coming out of the shadows to post something that I think is extremely rare…
At first glance, these appear to be just normal, low grade 1962 Post Cereal cards. But a closer look shows each card have a purplish stamp of 1-15, 1-35 and 1-75.
These are actually post cereal cards that I obtained in Caracas, Venezuela, as an 8-year-old child (lived there from 1961-1970). The “purplish stamps” are the prices of the cereal boxes at the time… 1 Bolivar, 15 centavos, 1 Bolivar 35 centavos, 1 Bolivar 75 centavos. I have no idea why the prices were so different… I wasn’t the one paying ;-) Just the one wanting the cards.
The conversion rate at the time was approximately 4 B’s to the dollar, so the cereal boxes cost about 30 to 45 cents in U.S. currency.
I can say with reasonable accuracy that the cereal was bought at the CADA market in Las Mercedes which is where my family usually bought groceries. I can also say with reasonable certainty that the cereal was imported from the U.S…. so basically the same boxes that kids were buying in the U.S. at the time. Would be interesting to find someone who worked for Post Cereal back in the day to provide info on cereal that was exported. My guess is the cereal wound up in many other countries as well…
I also remember buying Jello boxes with cards on them (I assume also imported), but don’t have any Jello cards with price marking on them…
And yes, I have a nice collection of Venezuelan Topps from back then… Bought wax packs in 62, 64, 66 and 68. Not exactly sure why I didn’t buy the 67’s, although I suspect it had something to do with the inferior quality of Venezuelan stuff at the time. And, no…. I don’t have any wax wrappers… Threw them in the garbage like most everyone else did…

[swarmee]

Neat; too bad they don't have any additional markings other than price tags. Not sure they can be cataloged just from price tags, but an interesting anomoly to store in the memory banks next time I see them.

[DBesse27]

Even though I generally hate the 67 set, I’m in love with that Tiant!!

Tdawg, if you’d like to sell any of your Topps Venezuelans from 1964 and/or 68, please let me know.

[a761506]

I just found time to catch up on this entire thread - nice cards you guys have all accumulated!

In the years since my original post in this thread, I have not been able to acquire very many upgrades, however, there are two of note:



I am searching for a 1968 Yaz World Series card with the correct back. I need to verify the existence of this card. If you have one, please post it.

[DBesse27]

Interesting note on the Yaz. I only need two cards to complete his 1960s Venz run: the World Series card you referenced and the checklist with his picture. I’ve only ever seen the WS card with CL back and done remember seeing a correct CL either. Are you saying you don’t think a “correct” WS card exists? Have you ever seen a correct checklist?

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by a761506

I just found time to catch up on this entire thread - nice cards you guys have all accumulated!

In the years since my original post in this thread, I have not been able to acquire very many upgrades, however, there are two of note:



I am searching for a 1968 Yaz World Series card with the correct back. I need to verify the existence of this card. If you have one, please post it.

Josh- those are AWESOME! I haven't been 'in the Venezuelan market' very long and have never seen any graded that high...bet there aren't many that are. And noteworthy cards to boot!

Thanks for sharing

[quitcrab]

Received a PSA 4 on my 1962 Venz Brooks Robinson and a PSA 5 on my Brooks 68 All Star. The 1962 looks much better than a 4. I thought a 5 or 5.5. Would be the grade. Scott

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by a761506

I just found time to catch up on this entire thread - nice cards you guys have all accumulated!

In the years since my original post in this thread, I have not been able to acquire very many upgrades, however, there are two of note:



I am searching for a 1968 Yaz World Series card with the correct back. I need to verify the existence of this card. If you have one, please post it.

WHOAH Josh! Another couple of world class additions to a world class collection! Just unreal and improbable on both those cards! Did you happen to get the 1959 Mays in Goldin? Nice to see a Venezuelan begin to get some market respect!

https://goldinauctions.com/1959_Vene...-LOT48208.aspx

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by tdawg

Greetings!
I tend to be lurker here, but coming out of the shadows to post something that I think is extremely rare…
At first glance, these appear to be just normal, low grade 1962 Post Cereal cards. But a closer look shows each card have a purplish stamp of 1-15, 1-35 and 1-75.
These are actually post cereal cards that I obtained in Caracas, Venezuela, as an 8-year-old child (lived there from 1961-1970). The “purplish stamps” are the prices of the cereal boxes at the time… 1 Bolivar, 15 centavos, 1 Bolivar 35 centavos, 1 Bolivar 75 centavos. I have no idea why the prices were so different… I wasn’t the one paying ;-) Just the one wanting the cards.
The conversion rate at the time was approximately 4 B’s to the dollar, so the cereal boxes cost about 30 to 45 cents in U.S. currency.
I can say with reasonable accuracy that the cereal was bought at the CADA market in Las Mercedes which is where my family usually bought groceries. I can also say with reasonable certainty that the cereal was imported from the U.S…. so basically the same boxes that kids were buying in the U.S. at the time. Would be interesting to find someone who worked for Post Cereal back in the day to provide info on cereal that was exported. My guess is the cereal wound up in many other countries as well…
I also remember buying Jello boxes with cards on them (I assume also imported), but don’t have any Jello cards with price marking on them…
And yes, I have a nice collection of Venezuelan Topps from back then… Bought wax packs in 62, 64, 66 and 68. Not exactly sure why I didn’t buy the 67’s, although I suspect it had something to do with the inferior quality of Venezuelan stuff at the time. And, no…. I don’t have any wax wrappers… Threw them in the garbage like most everyone else did…

Speaking of rare:

I wonder how many intact Post cereal boxes (w cards) exist today.


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[Cliff Bowman]

I bought a 1959 Topps Venezuelan on eBay from Gilberto of venezuelancards recently but was given a refund without explanation. I contacted him and he told me that Fed Ex is not picking up packages in Venezuela because of the current political climate there .

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I bought a 1959 Topps Venezuelan on eBay from Gilberto of venezuelancards recently but was given a refund without explanation. I contacted him and he told me that Fed Ex is not picking up packages in Venezuela because of the current political climate there .

Ya, that's actually been an issue for nearly a couple of years now. I had the same thing happen to me awhile ago. The seller lived in Caracas and he said that the gov't had shut down all the post offices. I had bought cards from him before, so I told him that I was cool to wait a little while, because I really needed the card. I waited a few months, and eventually he was able to send me the card. That being said, if he was insistent on refunding, or just straight refunded the money and gave me the explanation this seller gave you, I'd totally understand; which I'm sure you do as well.

Just another reason why Socialism is bad, I suppose.

[Exhibitman]

It's not socialism, it is an authoritarian state.

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

It's not socialism, it is an authoritarian state.

Socialism is the social ownership of the means of production. “Social” means government, and that’s precisely Venezuela; and has been for decades. You can call Maduro an authoritarian, he is, but the way he became one was through socialist policies; becoming supremely rich, corrupting officials, etc, etc.

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I bought a 1959 Topps Venezuelan on eBay from Gilberto of venezuelancards recently but was given a refund without explanation. I contacted him and he told me that Fed Ex is not picking up packages in Venezuela because of the current political climate there .

That also happened to me around the end of May.

You can still have items mailed DHL, but the cost is considerably more (about twice as much(?) )