Determining what is vintage

[Rookiemonster]

When I was a kid ( 1990s) I was talking to a old time dealer. It was in Garfield NJ his name was Bob he had a mustache and was always smoking( yes in the card show ). I ask him what he thought and he said most people thought 1969 and back was vintage. He also told me that 1969 Topps WAS OVER PRODUCED. So I always just kept 1969 as the cut off for vintage. But I do agree that the 80s should be vintage in today’s world.

[silvor]

I just got back into collecting again this year, so FWIW... I guess I always figured "vintage" was 1980 (or a case could be made for 1979).

Mostly because there was just one company, AND we never considered the cards worth much money. That is until the price guides came out and were around (at least in my circles) in the early 80's.

But, 1973 really makes more sense because at least some of the cards were more rare.

[drcy]

Your definition will depend on your age

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

When I was a kid ( 1990s) I was talking to a old time dealer. It was in Garfield NJ his name was Bob he had a mustache and was always smoking( yes in the card show ). I ask him what he thought and he said most people thought 1969 and back was vintage. He also told me that 1969 Topps WAS OVER PRODUCED. So I always just kept 1969 as the cut off for vintage. But I do agree that the 80s should be vintage in today’s world.

BTW -- The Garfield show is still going strong to this day.

I can picture Bob now --- yep in those days some people smoked IN the card show. Such a different world.

I probably saw you at some of those local Garfield shows when I would come up to visit

Rich

[homerunderby]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

BTW -- The Garfield show is still going strong to this day.

I can picture Bob now --- yep in those days some people smoked IN the card show. Such a different world.

I probably saw you at some of those local Garfield shows when I would come up to visit

Rich

I go to the Garfield show occasionally, probably 4-6x a year. Still every other weekend. There used to be 2-3 shows just in North NJ every weekend (and each day of the weekend), now Garfield is pretty much alone. There are a couple over towards Edison too, and of course the White Plains show, a small NYC show and monthly LI shows. But that's pretty much it.

Part of me misses all the activity, but the other part likes that I can get the cards I couldn't afford then for less than they were 25-30 years ago.

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

BTW -- The Garfield show is still going strong to this day.

I can picture Bob now --- yep in those days some people smoked IN the card show. Such a different world.

I probably saw you at some of those local Garfield shows when I would come up to visit

Rich

Lol I know it’s still my favorite show. We probably did at least cross paths as I always attend that show. There was two other bobs is I remember. One that was under the stairs . The other was bob with the big beard that sold packs and boxes. I the the beard retired and I see him there from time to time. He was my absolute favorite person to buy Packs from and probably still is.

[lowpopper]

The term should absolutely change as the years progress. 50 years from now, will you not call 88 donruss vintage?

1991 Topps was the last year of the soft, pulpy paper stock. So at some point, I believe this will be the accepted cut off year.

As for right now, I consider 85 and back to be vintage. 86 and forward is modern to me because of the drops in set value.