Imagine if...

[1burritoplease]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No one said it did. Nice deflection though. The ad says he sacrificed everything. Everything? I'm not asking for everything, I just want to know one thing. What has Kaepernick ever sacrificed?

Millions of dollars donated to charitable causes and in lost wages plus a career he's been working towards since Pee Wee football. What have you done to fight racism and police brutality?

[1burritoplease]

By the way, the actual deflection is when people like you twist the conversation away from racism and violence committed by our law enforcement community against young black men and try to turn it into something entirely different.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

By the way, the actual deflection is when people like you twist the conversation away from racism and violence committed by our law enforcement community against young black men and try to turn it into something entirely different.

There have been 707 people shot and killed by police this year (through the end of August). 128 of them were black. 18%. Sure, its slightly disproportinate to their overall population of 13%. Then again, blacks make up 42% of cop killers. But let's sweep that incredibly large disproportionate number under the rug, right? I don't understand why your kind only wants to talk about one side of the problem, but not the other.

Keep making dumb statements and I'll keep fact checking you, burritoboy.

[vintagetoppsguy]

The problem I have with the ad is not Kaepernick. If I were him, I'd take the endorsement deal too. I'm sure he's getting paid. He's not a fool. And it wasn't him that made up the slogan, it was Nike. That's who I have the problem with. Here's a company that has been accused of running sweatshops and exploiting child labor since the '70s. All of a sudden they want to take a stand against oppression? How about their own factories around the world that have oppressed their workers for years. Nike is a joke.

[Peter_Spaeth]

https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/nikes...rs-rights.html

[nolemmings]

Hmm, might be time for a new posterboy.

From Jeremy Staat, Pat Tillman's friend and teammate at ASU:

"In response to the Nike ad that is circulating. Please do not use Pat Tillman as a ploy for your political views," Staat, a former ASU and NFL defensive lineman, wrote in a Facebook post on Tuesday. "Pat was not a conservative [R]epublican, he did not believe in the Iraq War, he was not a Christian, and with the government and military handling of his death and the lies that followed I do believe that Pat would value the players' protest against police brutality and inequality."

https://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-...ck-controversy

[1burritoplease]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

There have been 707 people shot and killed by police this year (through the end of August). 128 of them were black. 18%. Sure, its slightly disproportinate to their overall population of 13%. Then again, blacks make up 42% of cop killers. But let's sweep that incredibly large disproportionate number under the rug, right? I don't understand why your kind only wants to talk about one side of the problem, but not the other.

Keep making dumb statements and I'll keep fact checking you, burritoboy.

Your numbers are fictitious at best, flat racist at worse (which I suspect is the case with you, considering your avatar).

And before you start calling names, cite your sources:
31% of all people killed by police are black (which is wildly disproportionate considering 13% of the US population is black), and 39% of all non-attacking victims of fatal police violence are black. This is according to FBI data from 2012 (https://www.vox.com/cards/police-bru...-police-racism)

Also, it's 41% of police who are killed feloniously are by black suspects. But I notice you didn't bat an eye at the 52% killed by white suspects.

https://source.wustl.edu/2018/02/pol...n-study-finds/

Kaepernick donated $1million just between Oct 2016 and June 2017
https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/...illion-dollars

And the donations continue to "roll past $1million"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerryba.../#39d802771668


But keep talking, so everybody can see how big of a racist piece of garbage you truly are.

[ALR-bishop]

And what would be your full name Paul ?

[1burritoplease]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

And what would be your full name Paul ?

That would approximately be none of your fucking business.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

That would approximately be none of your fucking business.

Nice

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

Your numbers are fictitious at best, flat racist at worse (which I suspect is the case with you, considering your avatar).

And before you start calling names, cite your sources:
31% of all people killed by police are black (which is wildly disproportionate considering 13% of the US population is black), and 39% of all non-attacking victims of fatal police violence are black. This is according to FBI data from 2012 (https://www.vox.com/cards/police-bru...-police-racism)

Also, it's 41% of police who are killed feloniously are by black suspects. But I notice you didn't bat an eye at the 52% killed by white suspects.

https://source.wustl.edu/2018/02/pol...n-study-finds/

Kaepernick donated $1million just between Oct 2016 and June 2017
https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/...illion-dollars

And the donations continue to "roll past $1million"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerryba.../#39d802771668


But keep talking, so everybody can see how big of a racist piece of garbage you truly are.

Since you are such an expert on these statistics, I was wondering if you could help me with a couple I was unable to find on Google (gee, I wonder why that would be). First, can you tell me the number of young black males murdered by other young black males annually in the USA as opposed to the numbers of young black males murdered by police annually in the USA, and second, the ratio of violent black on white crime as opposed to violent white on black crime annually in the USA?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Since you are such an expert on these statistics, I was wondering if you could help me with a couple I was unable to find on Google (gee, I wonder why that would be). First, can you tell me the number of young black males murdered by other young black males annually in the USA as opposed to the numbers of young black males murdered by police annually in the USA, and second, the ratio of violent black on white crime as opposed to violent white on black crime annually in the USA?

According to the article I posted 93 percent of black victims were killed by blacks. But nobody wants to talk about that, it's not politically correct.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The real racist is one who injects racism into the conversation when it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Nothing David has said remotely suggests he is a racist. You (burrito) should apologize to him, or take the gratuitous insults elsewhere.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

Your numbers are fictitious at best, flat racist at worse (which I suspect is the case with you, considering your avatar).

And before you start calling names, cite your sources:
31% of all people killed by police are black (which is wildly disproportionate considering 13% of the US population is black), and 39% of all non-attacking victims of fatal police violence are black. This is according to FBI data from 2012 (https://www.vox.com/cards/police-bru...-police-racism)

Also, it's 41% of police who are killed feloniously are by black suspects. But I notice you didn't bat an eye at the 52% killed by white suspects.

https://source.wustl.edu/2018/02/pol...n-study-finds/

Kaepernick donated $1million just between Oct 2016 and June 2017
https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/...illion-dollars

And the donations continue to "roll past $1million"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerryba.../#39d802771668


But keep talking, so everybody can see how big of a racist piece of garbage you truly are.

What kind of burrito are you, burritoboy? A beef burrito? A chicken burrito? No, wait, a bean burrito. Bean burritos give me the craps...much like the content of your posts.

My numbers are accurate. Do the research. But I'll play along with you burritoboy. Let's use your numbers instead. So 31% of all people killed by police are black, right burritoboy? But 41% of all police killed are by blacks. So I ask, burritoboy, why aren't you as passionate about officers killed by blacks as you are about blacks killed by officers? You sound a little one sided to me. Go push your racial division agenda somewhere else, burritoboy.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's more complicated than burrito's simple narrative using a cherry picked stat.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...s-commit-crime

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1burritoplease

Millions of dollars donated to charitable causes and in lost wages plus a career he's been working towards since Pee Wee football. What have you done to fight racism and police brutality?

Colin Kaepernick earned more than $43 million dollars during his career. He has donated just a little over $1 million (not the millions as you stated). That's 2.3% of his salary. The average American donates 3.7% of their annual salary. Big sacrifice there.

Edited to educate the misinformed: Lost wages? He opted out of his contract. That would be like me quitting my job and then complaining about lost wages.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Colin Kaepernick earned more than $43 million dollars during his career. He has donated just a little over $1 million (not the millions as you stated). That's 2.3% of his salary. The average American donates 3.7% of their annual salary. Big sacrifice there.

Edited to educate the misinformed: Lost wages? He opted out of his contract. That would be like me quitting my job and then complaining about lost wages.

It's hard to take seriously a claim of ultimate sacrifice by someone with $40 million in prior earnings. I think it's admirable that he is taking a stand and speaking out against racism, and I support him in that, but let's not couch this in terms of ultimate sacrifice please.

And let's not accuse anyone who disagrees with the campaign of somehow wanting to distract attention from racism and police violence, that's ridiculous.

Oh, and according to Celebrity Net Worth, Colin is still worth a cool $20 million. Now there's nothing wrong with an uber-wealthy person taking a stand for the less fortunate. Again, it's a question of how it's characterized.