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Old 10-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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You can't fault Judge for his performance without giving him due credit too. The double he had was a big hit for the Yankees and he saved a home run that would have sent them home.

By the way, while people have been killing Judge they've been pretty quiet about Kris Bryant, who's struck out 9 times in 16 at bats and has one single RBI.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:37 AM
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You forgot the four walks. In 24 atbats he put the ball in play four times.
Judge also saved the season with a great catch. And delivered the key knockout blow to Bauer. Despite an otherwise terribly rough series for him.

Hate all you want; if you know baseball, you know there are ebbs and flows— true fans aren’t fazed, and will keep rooting.

Go Yankees.

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Old 10-12-2017, 11:43 AM
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You can't fault Judge for his performance without giving him due credit too. The double he had was a big hit for the Yankees and he saved a home run that would have sent them home.

By the way, while people have been killing Judge they've been pretty quiet about Kris Bryant, who's struck out 9 times in 16 at bats and has one single RBI.
Exactly. Judge hits 52 homers as a rookie, and emerges from a slump to be Player Of The Month in September— then has a great WC game, and a season saving catch in the DS... and yet some lie in wait for his next rough patch or bad series, eager to slither out and trash him. Then they will vanish when he gets hot again, slither out again when he has a bad series, rinse, repeat. It’s a puerile cycle. The kid had a historic season and there’s no changing that. And a rebuilding team just dismissed the top seed from two games down, to reach the CS. Judge and the team and the fans are very happy with this.

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Exactly. Judge hits 52 homers as a rookie, and emerges from a slump to be Player Of The Month in September— then has a great WC game, and a season saving catch in the DS... and yet some lie in wait for his next rough patch or bad series, eager to slither out and trash him. Then they will vanish when he gets hot again, slither out again when he has a bad series, rinse, repeat. It’s a puerile cycle. The kid had a historic season and there’s no changing that. And a rebuilding team just dismissed the top seed from two games down, to reach the CS. Judge and the team and the fans are very happy with this.
+10. Dead on.

Sadly, even tragically for our fragile hobby, we have an ample share of individuals on here who must have university B.S. degrees in SCHADENFREUDE, after having tested out of 75% of the classes! They may have an invisible framed diploma, but distilling their lives down to the foundation, they're just a bunch of dips. They slither out of the grass, after having lived on grass.

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Exactly. Judge hits 52 homers as a rookie, and emerges from a slump to be Player Of The Month in September— then has a great WC game, and a season saving catch in the DS... and yet some lie in wait for his next rough patch or bad series, eager to slither out and trash him. Then they will vanish when he gets hot again, slither out again when he has a bad series, rinse, repeat. It’s a puerile cycle. The kid had a historic season and there’s no changing that. And a rebuilding team just dismissed the top seed from two games down, to reach the CS. Judge and the team and the fans are very happy with this.
+10. Dead on.

Sadly, even tragically for our fragile hobby, we have an ample share of individuals on here who must have university B.S. degrees in SCHADENFREUDE, after having tested out of 75% of the classes! They may have an invisible framed diploma, but distilling their lives down to the foundation, they're just a bunch of dips. They slither out of the grass, after having lived on grass.

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Old 10-12-2017, 02:11 PM
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You forgot the four walks. In 24 atbats he put the ball in play four times.


No. I was correct. 20ABs + 4BBs = 24PAs.


...and I don't mean to 'pile on' Judge, it's just the state of the game...

...and I also realized that Bryant was almost as bad.


Speaking of the state of the game: I wonder how many organizations will have their pitching instructors stressing curveballs this off-season.

Before the slider came into prominence, the curveball was what separated the AAA hitters from those who got to the Majors.

If enough pitchers develop their curveballs, it could be the bane of 'pinball' baseball.

One of the great things about this GAME is that these hitter-v-pitcher adjustments happen again and again over time.

A happy medium is the way I prefer it...an occasional slugfest and an occasional shutout.

I don't want 1968 again, but let's bring back the deuice ,the yakkers, the double-yellow hammers...the Uncle Charlies to even out the board a little.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:23 PM
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Bryant is worse and his team faces elimination. If the Cubs lose, no one is going to dump their Bryant rookies, but Judge has a bad series (one in which he was responsible for saving one game and knocking out the starter who dominated the team in game 1) and everyone is sure he's got major problems ahead of him.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:40 PM
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Judge has a troubling profile tho. As teams do their offseason scouting reports by looking at tape...etc Judge is going to have make some major adjustments or else he could end up in Rob Deer territory

not saying he can't do that, but his batting profile is generally one of the most volatile and short lived.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:56 PM
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How can you compare him to Rob Deer? Rob Deer is a career 220 hitter who couldn't take a walk and didn't score runs. Judge led the league in runs and walks.

I posted Bryant's batting line already. Harper is hitting 133 himself in his series. But there is something wrong with only Judge. I don't buy that.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:17 PM
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Not defending Bryant or Harper and certainly a five game series is not a significant sample size from which to predict future performance.

Nevertheless 16 Ks in 5 games (3.2/game) would result in 518.4 Ks in a 162 game season if one played in every game. I recognize the Aaron struck out only (?) 208 times this year, but could this number go higher next season. I wouldn't bet against it, unless of course the "Judge" spent a little more time on the "bench" next year.

Unfortunately with the evolution of the game into a home run derby/strike out game much of the "inside baseball" of the older game seems to be disappearing. Is anyone surprised that a record number of home runs and strikeouts occurred in the same year? Judge is just the most hyped example of this trend, but there are many others.

Not a hater, just the facts.
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