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Old 09-17-2019, 07:10 PM
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Default Juan Soto (Nationals) or Ronald Acuna (Braves)?

I'm a born and raised Braves fan, but I would take Soto over this guy without hesitation.....Acuna is too much of a clown.....
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:42 PM
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I'm a born and raised Braves fan, but I would take Soto over this guy without hesitation.....Acuna is too much of a clown.....

easy there Kevin...he's just a kid having fun...but...

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There is some serious young talent in baseball right now, Acuna, Soto, Torres, Vlad Jr., Tatis Jr., Bellinger.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:07 AM
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Kevin - looks like you are right...another incident with Acuna last night.
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:16 PM
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I think Acuna is the superior player but I'd rather have Soto on my team.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:00 PM
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I think Acuna will be fine, he has some maturing to do I suppose but so did a young Griffey Jr.
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Kevin - looks like you are right...another incident with Acuna last night.
What happened last night besides Albies swinging on the first pitch twice with Acuna on first and not giving him a chance to run?
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As a Mets fan, I've seen enough of both

I would take Soto.
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acuna has more tools, soto is the superior batter. i'd take acuna.
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#40 today for Acuna, and only 3 steals away from being the first clean 40 40 player ever.
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#40 today for Acuna, and only 3 steals away from being the first clean 40 40 player ever.
Nah asterisk still meeded...something is juiced for sure this year.
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#40 today for Acuna, and only 3 steals away from being the first clean 40 40 player ever.
I agree with that Peter...He is also the third player ever to hit 40 homeruns in a season at age 21 or younger (Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews) He strikes out way too much though, especially for a lead off hitter (188 this year)
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I agree with that Peter...He is also the third player ever to hit 40 homeruns in a season at age 21 or younger (Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews) He strikes out way too much though, especially for a lead off hitter (188 this year)
I don't understand this new thing of having a power hitter lead off. It seems gimmicky and not calculated to score the most runs for the team. If I have a 40 HR guy I want him hitting 3rd or 4th.
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#40 today for Acuna, and only 3 steals away from being the first clean 40 40 player ever.
Has Soriano been confirmed as a PED guy?
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Has Soriano been confirmed as a PED guy?
Not confirmed, but I thought he was at least strongly suspected and was on one of those leaked lists (2003 maybe?). Perhaps that's wrong.
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Default Juan Soto (Nationals) or Ronald Acuna (Braves)?

I agree that something has been going on with the baseballs over the past several years in the MLB. They introduced the MLB ball to AAA this year and their home run count jumped 50% and is tracking to an all time record.

I am a Braves fan so gotta pick Acuna between the two but to be honest I would much rather have Freeman or Albies before considering Acuna.

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I agree that something has been going on with the baseballs over the past several years in the MLB. They introduced the MLB ball to AAA this year and their home run count jumped 50% and is tracking to an all time record.

I am a Braves fan so gotta pick Acuna between the two but to be honest I would much rather have Freeman or Olbies before considering Acuna.
I'm a Donaldson fan too...even though he consistently has the worst haircuts in MLB.
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I'm a Donaldson fan too...even though he consistently has the worst haircuts in MLB.
I will say this about the Braves. When you look at their line up 1-4, I dont know that I've seen a better one in several years..... Acuna, Albies, Freeman, Donaldson......
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I will say this about the Braves. When you look at their line up 1-4, I dont know that I've seen a better one in several years..... Acuna, Albies, Freeman, Donaldson......
uhhh the ws favorite, houston? springer altuve bregman alvarez/correa.

acuna still learning the strike zone, that's why i said soto is the better hitter. if you put soto batting discipline with the rest of acuna's game...well you get a flashy mike trout that's really marketable!

p.s. it's pretty nutty braves fans that watch braves games every day would rather have ozzie albies and josh donaldson than RONALD ACUNA JR...lol!
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uhhh the ws favorite, houston? springer altuve bregman alvarez/correa.

acuna still learning the strike zone, that's why i said soto is the better hitter. if you put soto batting discipline with the rest of acuna's game...well you get a flashy mike trout that's really marketable!

p.s. it's pretty nutty braves fans that watch braves games every day would rather have ozzie albies and josh donaldson than RONALD ACUNA JR...lol!
Houston is a sick team between their lineup and starting pitching. I can't believe they picked up Greinke.
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Soto's higher on base percentage makes him a more valuable hitter than Acuna at this point.

Both are putting up historic numbers for players their age. Their career will depend on if they continue to take steps forward, if they plateau, or if this represents the peak for either player.

Either way, both are super exciting. Acuna is putting up flashier numbers (little more power and has the power/speed thing going), which Soto is more solid at this point.
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Nobody at all talking about Keston Hiura of the Brewers. He needs to keep working on his defense, but the kid can flat hit. Iím not sure how a second baseman thatís hit .303 with 51 runs, 23 doubles, 19 home runs, 49 RBI, 9/12 stolen bases, and a slash line of .368/.570/.938 with a 138 OPS+ is worth only 2.1 bWAR in 84 games, but the kidís a beast.


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He's overshadowed by better infielders. There's no one better than Gleyber. Can't understand how Jeter owned New York doing what he did and Gleyber barely gets any air time.
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Nobody at all talking about Keston Hiura of the Brewers. He needs to keep working on his defense, but the kid can flat hit. Iím not sure how a second baseman thatís hit .303 with 51 runs, 23 doubles, 19 home runs, 49 RBI, 9/12 stolen bases, and a slash line of .368/.570/.938 with a 138 OPS+ is worth only 2.1 bWAR in 84 games, but the kidís a beast.


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I traded and got Hiura for Austin Riley after Riley hit his 15th homer...what a deal..
Great timing, Jake!

Riley and Duvall both worked over the Major League Balls in AAA and for a while did the same in the 'Show', but major league pitchers usually find your weaknesses - or limitations- quicker than you can adjust.
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Kevin- I believe I've come up with a fool-proof plan for Acuna's future plate appearances:

put the bunt sign on! - every time - let's see him stand and watch that!
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Trying to process how Acuna, after being benched earlier in the season for stargazing, continues to hit and admire his ball with googly eyes in a post season game. Where is the hustle??

Donít care he hit a dinger in the 9th. We lost the game. Again, give me Freeman, Albies, or Donaldson instead of this lollygagger.
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Trying to process how Acuna, after being benched earlier in the season for stargazing, continues to hit and admire his ball with googly eyes in a post season game. Where is the hustle??

Donít care he hit a dinger in the 9th. We lost the game. Again, give me Freeman, Albies, or Donaldson instead of this lollygagger.


Bring in Brett Butler to show him how to lay down a proper bunt...even Billy Hamilton isn't fast enough to stand and admire one of those.
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on the other hand...how would you act if you were 21-years-old and someone handed you $100 Million?

I DO know I would have eaten out EVERY night!

but, I do like to think I would have done everything I could not to 'kill that golden goose'.
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