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Old 12-31-2017, 01:21 PM
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Default Auction oddities: Using the PSA Auction Results site

Figured this would be a neat thread to start, now that PSA has released their VCP competitor that is free to use (at least currently). Figured we could post some pricing oddities spotted while we search this to see cards that are hot, sell for way too little, or whatever. I have already marked about 50 entries as errors because they linked the wrong Cert# to the auction so the card showing is not the card they think it is.

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice.../values/182634
1961 Topps #26 Wes Stock. Two auction sales of PSA 9s for around $30 in the spring, then an auction and BIN for $300 at end of 2017.

Edit: Also, I figure I'll spot check these on a volunteer basis to make the tool more useful just like I do for COMC. I'll start by reporting all errors I find in 1961 Topps (randomly selected it and started). Anyone want to take a different year?
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:45 PM
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1961 Topps #48 AL Pitching Leaders in PSA 9:
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ues/182660#g=9

DATE	PRICE	GRADE	LOT #	AUCTION HOUSE	AUCTION / SELLER	TYPE	CERT
9/12/2016 $82.22 9 142105897940 eBay pwcc_auctions Auction 26028087
1/16/2017 $41.25 9 381923596230 eBay savingforthewedding071517 Auction 24563974
7/9/2017 $181.40 9 362026757184 eBay probstein123 Auction 27494150
11/6/2017 $22.00 9 382267742078 eBay probstein123 Auction 27827852
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Old 12-31-2017, 05:43 PM
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1961 Topps #154 Bobby Del Greco PSA 8: precipitous fall in value over a year, and a couple days.

DATE	PRICE	GRADE	LOT #	AUCTION HOUSE	AUCTION / SELLER	TYPE	CERT
9/22/2016 $154.00 8 311696846566 eBay gregmorriscards Auction 40047474
11/21/2016 $89.76 8 351903120366 eBay pwcc_auctions Auction 24049629
5/1/2017 $89.79 8 352035695122 eBay pwcc_auctions Auction 12407770
5/4/2017 $26.89 8 382061250079 eBay probstein123 Auction 06596169


This one is pretty crazy: #170 Al Smith PSA 8
DATE	PRICE	GRADE	LOT #	AUCTION HOUSE	AUCTION / SELLER	TYPE	CERT
9/22/2016 $141.50 8 131937400559 eBay gregmorriscards Auction 11269444
11/20/2016 $89.88 8 381848301480 eBay just_collect Auction 11577913
11/21/2016 $282.00 8 142176823860 eBay pwcc_auctions Auction 50060813
5/1/2017 $28.89 8 401311694395 eBay pwcc_auctions Auction 12415269
7/17/2017 $79.77 8 372008949130 eBay probstein123 Auction 23179427
10/23/2017 $147.50 8 372103139291 eBay pristine_paper Auction 20042985
10/24/2017 $84.99 8 202085892637 eBay cooperstownsportscards Auction 22527516
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JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.

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The problem with raw data is this.

There are 8's and there are 8's. Centering is SO SO Important (IMO) that it makes a big difference. Also anold 8 could be submitted for a bump.

This is not that uncommon for it to happen.
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It's not just raw data; you can see pictures of 90% of the cards by going to the link. Centering did not seem to be a big deal (wide variance) on the cards I'm pointing out. I realize that not every 9 is a strong 9. But when a 9 varies from $30-300 over the course of a year, that is a BIG swing.
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BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:12 PM
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1961 Topps #350 Ernie Banks PSA 9: There are 49 no qualifier PSA 9s in the current Pop Report, out of approx 2000 submitted. Of those, 21 unique certs are in the database as having sold. Only two have sold twice. I am sure there are many more validated sales in VCP, since they have a longer eBay auction history.

One five months apart by PWCC both times (consignor lost $100), and one 7 years apart by Mile High (consignor made $50, which probably translates to a loss due to BP).

In the span of one month in 2007, this card lost $1220, or two thirds of its value. It went from $1826 w/BP in Goodwin to $609 w/BP in Memory Lane.
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PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head
PSA: Regularly Get Cheated
BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern
SGC: Closed auto authentication business
JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC
Oh, what a difference a year makes.
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