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Old 07-27-2018, 02:28 AM
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There are currently 8 Young Guns with a 3 other cards also classified as Young guns, (like this one below) that I am not familiar with.

This is the most expensive one as it's a Pristine copy.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352405806682?nordt=true

Looks like it will finish over a $1000, imo.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/curr...ms_per_page=50
Those are UD Young Gun Canvas. Not an exact variant of the YGs such as foil, exclusive and high gloss. They generally command less than a comparable YGs. As an example a standard McDavid Young guns in BGS pristine has sold from (edit not $20k) $10k to about $5k in the past year. Not sure of the exact bottom number or recent sales because I haven't checked recently. But it has dropped substantially.

Also the pops on a Black Label BGS 10 have increased substantially in the past 6-12 months. Someone on another forum has been tracking pop counts and there was a sudden surge. I'll try and find a link tomorrow. Just another reason why I shy away from buying "11"s.

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Old 07-27-2018, 02:54 AM
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Here is the link:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ht=McDavid+BGS

Black Label YGs went from a hit rate of 1/285 (first 6,800 cards graded) to 1/61 (last 304 cards graded as of May 2018)

Hmmmmm?

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Old 07-29-2018, 11:55 PM
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Those are UD Young Gun Canvas. Not an exact variant of the YGs such as foil, exclusive and high gloss. They generally command less than a comparable YGs. As an example a standard McDavid Young guns in BGS pristine has sold from (edit not $20k) $10k to about $5k in the past year. Not sure of the exact bottom number or recent sales because I haven't checked recently. But it has dropped substantially.

Also the pops on a Black Label BGS 10 have increased substantially in the past 6-12 months. Someone on another forum has been tracking pop counts and there was a sudden surge. I'll try and find a link tomorrow. Just another reason why I shy away from buying "11"s.

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Here is the link:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ht=McDavid+BGS

Black Label YGs went from a hit rate of 1/285 (first 6,800 cards graded) to 1/61 (last 304 cards graded as of May 2018)

Hmmmmm?

Kevin
Very interesting, Kevin.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 07-30-2018, 05:50 PM
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McDavids cards are overpriced, His cards are easy to find and are in abundance..They are not as "rare" as collectors think..There are currently 1446 PSA 10's. Keep in mind, most of his cards pulled from packs, are placed in penny sleeves and inserted into a toploader immediately, and either graded or kept in a "mint state".
Gretzky's 79 OPC carries just 2-10's, 79-9's, 685-8's, 956-7's, 913-6's, 653- 5's, 541-4's, 300-3's. 161-2's, and 118-1's. He has a total of just 2635 cards graded 6 and above, and just 4,408 cards in TOTAL graded. (I don't consider the Gretzky rookie card rare either) Back in 1979 kids were not putting their cards in penny sleeves and toploaders..they put them in the spokes of their bikes to make them go faster..
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McDavids cards are overpriced, His cards are easy to find and are in abundance..They are not as "rare" as collectors think..There are currently 1446 PSA 10's. Keep in mind, most of his cards pulled from packs, are placed in penny sleeves and inserted into a toploader immediately, and either graded or kept in a "mint state".
Gretzky's 79 OPC carries just 2-10's, 79-9's, 685-8's, 956-7's, 913-6's, 653- 5's, 541-4's, 300-3's. 161-2's, and 118-1's. He has a total of just 2635 cards graded 6 and above, and just 4,408 cards in TOTAL graded. (I don't consider the Gretzky rookie card rare either) Back in 1979 kids were not putting their cards in penny sleeves and toploaders..they put them in the spokes of their bikes to make them go faster..
Thanks for the info, Paul.

I understand the hype and how people can get caught up in it, but I am not so sure that won't always be the case when the next best thing comes along?
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Thanks for the info, Paul.

I understand the hype and how people can get caught up in it, but I am not so sure that won't always be the case when the next best thing comes along?
Always hype for someone. (this is why I have at least a couple 91' Classic sets sitting in the basement still...Lindros is the next Gretzky you know)
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:21 AM
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Always hype for someone. (this is why I have at least a couple 91' Classic sets sitting in the basement still...Lindros is the next Gretzky you know)
You're sitting on a gold mine, Justin!
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Don't forget about Upper Deck ePack. I believe it started with 2015-16 Series 1 which is when the McDavid was released. A ton of McDavids weren't even packed out but sent directly to BGS from Upper Deck through ePack or COMC.

Granted, like others have said it's a 2015 card that went directly into a holder regardless so it's not a tough 10 by any stretch. But I'd love to see production numbers from Upper Deck on this set at some point! I sold a bunch of these in late 2016 and only held onto the Future Watch. Numbered to 999 and signed on card which is a perfect combination--and SP Authentic is a pedigree type set that I will always enjoy buying!

Also, McDavid is great. Just throwing it out there!
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Don't forget about Upper Deck ePack. I believe it started with 2015-16 Series 1 which is when the McDavid was released. A ton of McDavids weren't even packed out but sent directly to BGS from Upper Deck through ePack or COMC.

Granted, like others have said it's a 2015 card that went directly into a holder regardless so it's not a tough 10 by any stretch. But I'd love to see production numbers from Upper Deck on this set at some point! I sold a bunch of these in late 2016 and only held onto the Future Watch. Numbered to 999 and signed on card which is a perfect combination--and SP Authentic is a pedigree type set that I will always enjoy buying!

Also, McDavid is great. Just throwing it out there!
I wondered about those SP cards? Thanks for clearing that up.

And yes, McDavid certainly is an amazing player!
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