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Old 04-25-2008, 10:07 AM
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Anyone have any pictures or copies of Topps sell sheets from 1974 and earlier? Whenever they come up for auction from the topps vault (or an auction house) I save a copy. Great references for # of cards that came per pack. I post everything I have, please post any that you have, thanks JOhn.

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1952 High packs:

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Old 04-25-2008, 05:18 PM
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1953 packs:

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Old 04-25-2008, 05:21 PM
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1961 rak and cello packs:

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Old 04-25-2008, 05:29 PM
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1961 stamp album

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Anyone else notice the rounded corners on the 51 All Stars card? Say it ain't so.

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1962 wax and wax trays

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1962 cello and rak packs

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1962 bucks

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1963 cello and rak packs

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1963 wax

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Old 04-25-2008, 05:41 PM
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Posted By: Anthony N.

Cool stuff John, especially the '51 sheet. While I've got that wrapper I've never seen the box, and still am not quite sure of all the ways '51's were issued- as a bagged set, in candy wrappers, both sets in green wrappers, and the blue backs in the scarcer wrapper (red I think?).
I don't have any Topps sheets to add, but do have this '62 Bell Brand sell sheet:

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1964 Bazooka

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Anthony, thanks! Have you ever seen these, If I remember right it was from a Mr Mint auction, supposely they contain the 1951 all stars and team cards in the middle too.

Have to fix the rugrats dinner, will post more sheets later, John



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Posted By: larry

hi
i sold that pack to Mr Mint...and yes he put in in his auction
has 51 team cards and connie macks
if i remember correctly there were 3 of each

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1964 wax tray

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1964 xmas wax box

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1966 rak pack, front and back



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1966 wax and wax trays

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Collage that includes a 64 cello and rak ad, 1970 wax and 1951 playing cards

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Awesome stuff. Made my Saturday morning very enjoyable. Thanks.

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Old 04-26-2008, 08:42 AM
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I have one of those I bought in an auction, but it was not Rosen. There are 5 Connie Macks or Current AllStars in the pack ( can not tell which, but they have a red background so are not team cards) Unfortunatley there are rubber bands holding the two stacks of game cards togehter at the perforations. I have all 5 of the 51 sets, minus the big 3 of the Current All Stars

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Al-is there Topps or TCG mentioned anywhere on the packaging? I do not believe there is and I am slowly coming to the conclusion Topps sold their excess stock to a third party who distributed the game/all star cards this way. Not 100% certain but I know they did this with their '52 Baseball cards (sell in bulk to a third party) and they likely also did it for the "Christmas" Rak Paks you see sometimes.

I think all five '51 sets are related and Topps intended for there to be two complete sets of all star standups plus a full complement of team cards. When that became problematic, i.e. not all teams or all stars could be produced, they pulled the plug while the blue backs were in production. This is a theory but it makes sense to me the more I look at it (barring any evidence I don't have, obviously).

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David...the packaging has no mention of Topps or the logo. While the rubber bands do no real damage to the game cards, they have played havoc over the years with the full sized cards. Also, odd there would be 5 of them and not 4 or 6. There is a game card basseball diamond included with the pack. I can not see all of it since it is folded, so not sure if it is a real Topps item or an afterthought by whoever packaged it..

Sometime even if they are non Topps or repackaged Topps, they can still be fun. I still like my 73 Puffy Stickers...whatever they are

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Posted By: larry

sold the 51 pack to mr mint at pittsburgh show for 5500
he put in next auction and got 7200
pack definitely had 3 connie macks and 2 team cards
there was no ruth or gehrig...you can see which cards are in there by sliding them over
also the game board
game board is a topps product

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Larry:

This is the sheet, right?

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David...that is the game board in mine. But all 5 of the big cards have red backgounds, no yellows ( I have the 18 team cards so am familiar with them). And the pack is too tight for a sliding view.

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Posted By: larry

i never opened the pack but that looks like the half you could see
i think the extra cards in the pack were random
couldve been any combination of teams and connie macks
in fact i was told that a blueback pack also exists that had the current all stars as the extra cards

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