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View Poll Results: Do Baines and/or Smith belong in the Hall of Fame? | |||
Yes to both | 48 | 10.98% | |
Yes to Baines, No to Smith | 4 | 0.92% | |
Yes to Smith, No to Baines | 182 | 41.65% | |
No to both | 203 | 46.45% | |
Voters: 437. You may not vote on this poll |
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I voted "no" to both. But I did buy four autographed Smith & Baines Topps cards on eBay last night for my HOF autograph collection. HOF is a thing.
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Over 200 in the HOF, Lee Smith 3rd All-Time in Saves. Baines 34th in RBI's, 46th in hits, 43rd in Total Bases and 60th in Extra Base Hits. So both are not that bad. Can't all be as good as Ruth, Cobb, etc.
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Just realized nobody mentioned Dewey yet as a MUCH more deserving player than Baines
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Dominant
I always like to see some form of dominance in a Hall member. I voted yes for Smith because when he retired he was #1 in career saves.
Baines just chugged along for 22 years. Six All-Star games. Never once in the top 5 in the MVP vote. I gave him a "no".
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Same here, as above.
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Keep in mind that you need to compare them with their peers. Clear yes for Big Lee! Bains was a good player but not HOF calibur.
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Compared to their peers
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smith was the dominant closer of his league for a number of years, the best man any manager could want coming out of the pen. he was the all time leader in saves when he retired. baines only ranked in the top three of ANY of the more than one dozen offensive categories ONE TIME over 22 seasons. that means he never came within the top three of anything such as hits, doubles, triples, homers, batting average, RBI, walks, plate appearances, runs scored, etc., even though he had hundreds of chances. and he did almost nothing on defense, never came close to leading anything on that side of the diamond and actually only played the field a handful of years. so what made him a HOFer? if not his bat, or his legs, or his glove, or his arm....what is left to evaluate? answer: political connections? |
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if you look at Baines stats, he should’ve retired after his first 10 seasons.
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After his 10th season, Baines had seasons with an OPS+ 143, 137, 142, 132 and 136 and was above average every year but his last two in which he was a part time player. He was an All Star twice and even had a few top 10s. Baines was a very good player for most of his career. The problem was that he was never a truly great player, not that he hung on too long.
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I always liked Bill Madlock, would take him on my team any day over Harold Baines. Now that Baines is in, I would put Madlock in the "snubbed" category. Heck, he actually won 4 batting titles - he did something. Don't think Baines even won one, or was even that close .
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11.9 percent for Baines.
52.6 percent for Smith.
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