NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-20-2018, 09:07 PM
lloydchristmas lloydchristmas is offline
Ryan
member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 109
Default Newer to T206 Collecting, seeking advice...

Hi everyone,

I'm newer to T206 collecting and before spending too much $$$, I was curious to know if there were any other books or references I should check out besides The T206 Collection: The Players & Their Stories? Any other online resources? I'm currently reading as many threads here as I can.

I appreciate any and all advice, so thanks in advance!

Oh! Separately, does anyone have a favorite card I should keep a look out for? Maybe you like the player, portrait, pose, etc.

Ryan
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-20-2018, 09:14 PM
njdunkin1 njdunkin1 is offline
N
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Eagle River, WI
Posts: 750
Default

Hi, Ryan!

Welcome to the boards and to T206--been collecting since '09, but only got into T206 about 2 years ago. Been hooked since!

I would suggest just scanning through pictures online and finding fronts/backs that you would like to go after. I find N54 and eBay to be the best resources for buying. Information-wise, LukeLyon's blog thatt206life.com is excellent for updates and cool photos.

Collect what you like, not what is hype. Let you tell you what you like, not necessarily other people (though other people can certainly inspire you! )

Personally, I love portraits and Hindu backs, particularly cards in the pink/red/purple color scheme!

Have an awesome time collecting, and welcome to N54!

-NJ


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-20-2018, 09:48 PM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,547
Default

Hi Ryan-

Bill Heitman's The Monster

http://brockelmanauctions.com/lot-10545.aspx


Lew Lipset's Encyclopedia of Baseball Cards

https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-.../dp/B003U8ZHNE

Last edited by MVSNYC; 03-20-2018 at 09:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-20-2018, 10:31 PM
commishbob's Avatar
commishbob commishbob is offline
Bob Andrews
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston Tx Area
Posts: 1,372
Default

Ryan...last things first: there was a thread in the last week in which many members posted their favorite T206s and most related the story behind the choice. The thread is here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=252602

I'm not even remotely an expert on this wonderful set but that doesn't stop me from appreciating it. I came to the realization long ago that attempting to collect it in full, or even a significant portion of it was an impossible dream.

What I did instead was pick up cards that I enjoyed or had some significance to me. I started with a Christy Mathewson and added a couple of other affordable Hall of Famers, Rube Marquard and Jack Chesbro. I also found a few common and minor leaguers that had colorful cards that struck my eye and were within my budget at the time.

I added nice but affordable examples of the famous Cubs DB trio of Tinker, Evers and Chance. I had that framed in a little custom display for my office.

Over the years I picked up the nine Eastern League Baltimore players in the set. (Sidebar: I was originally using an old 70s era checklist that only had six listed. I found my mistake early this year).

And lastly I have recently picked up two of the three Chief Bender cards. He has long been an interest of mine. I'm going to add his 'portrait' T206 in the near future.

I'm now at 20 cards. A minuscule total for sure but they all fit my collection. I enjoy each of them. Good luck and welcome.
__________________
People are crazy and times are strange, I used to care but things have changed -Dylan
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-20-2018, 10:56 PM
the 'stache's Avatar
the 'stache the 'stache is offline
Bill Gregory
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
Posts: 3,915
Default

Hi Ryan,

Kudos on dipping your toes in the T206 pool. The set is a lot of fun. There are so many different ways to collect it: you can focus on individual players, teams, Hall of Famers, Southern Leaguers, poses (portrait or action cards), specific backs, runs of one player with all the backs, ghosts, scraps, proofs, etc. The ways of collecting the Monster are pretty much limitless. Once you find your niche, run with it!

Both of the books listed by MVSNYC are must haves, in my opinion. I have them, and refer to them constantly when I am working on my collection:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MVSNYC View Post
Hi Ryan-

Bill Heitman's The Monster

http://brockelmanauctions.com/lot-10545.aspx


Lew Lipset's Encyclopedia of Baseball Cards

https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-.../dp/B003U8ZHNE
I would also download Scot Reader's Inside T206 pdf. It's free. Just click the link.

You'll find a good number of sites devoted to the Monster. I use http://t206resource.com/ quite often. That's a really great resource.

There are a few good periodicals that have had really interesting articles about the T206 set (among other pre-war sets). I've subscribed toOld Cardboard, and have bought several of the back issues. Great publication that really gets you in the mood for pre-war cards in general, not just T206. That link will take you to the page where you can get profiles of each issue that's been published; some will go into T206, but they're all great reads, regardless.

I also highly recommend the old Vintage & Classic Baseball Collector magazines. They're no longer published, but you can find the back copies on Ebay. Search by VCBC. I have several of these, also.

As for jumping into the set, my recommendation would be to start small. The BST here (buy, sell, trade) has a specific sub-forum for T206 cards. I'd get one or two commons, in lower condition, and ungraded. When you start getting into the more expensive cards, likely most of them will be slabbed. But starting out with a few commons that you can hold in your hand, look over under magnification, feel and smell...will give you an idea of what is typical for the cards. Get used to the card stock, how the lithography looks under magnification, what a factory cut edge looks like, and how it differs from a trim under magnification. You really want to spend some time getting used to the variations that can come with these cards. Unlike modern cards, there will be some slight size variance. Don't always assume a card has been trimmed because of this. One example is the American Beauty advertising back. Also, depending on where a card was located within a sheet, you might have one border that is slightly larger than the other three. If you're not sure of what you're seeing, ask the members here.

If you've not built a "starter kit", you should do so. This will help you look over your cards close up, as well as detect alterations that may have been done to the cards (trimming, bleaching, adding paper, etc). These are the tools that all vintage and pre-war collectors have.

Items you need:

A good ruler.
A high-quality jeweler's loupe
A black light

You might also purchase a 50 x portable microscope

One other book I highly recommend is David Cycleback's Judging the Authenticity of Early Baseball Cards. David is one of the members of this forum. The knowledge you'll glean is applicable to any older set you might collect, and will go a long way to protect you when buying from dealers you might not know (you should always try to buy from reputable dealers/individuals if at all possible). His website also has a wealth of information on forensic analysis, which will come in handy when examining not only baseball cards, but currency and historical documents, as well. This article on forensic light is fascinating, and useful to collectors.

Lastly, if you are unsure of something, ask! The members of this forum are incredibly knowledgeable, and very helpful, in my experience. Be a discerning buyer, and listen to your instincts. But most of all, have fun!!
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps.

Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-21-2018, 01:10 AM
Santo10Fan's Avatar
Santo10Fan Santo10Fan is offline
Ben
ben tay/lor
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Chicago
Posts: 680
Default

One of the most interesting things about T206 was the random way it was produced and distributed. There were spurts. A lot more is known now than there was say, 40 years ago. A lot of what Topps has done in the past two decades, with parallels, short prints, etc., were inspired by this very set. One important thing I look for is the color registration. I'll give you an example below. If you can spot the differences and notice one face is much clearer than the other, this is the type of stuff you want to be patient and seek out. These cards were meant to be state-of-the art color pictures, so if you see any cards that display that level of clarity these are the ones you may want to give further attention to.

T206 Resource has all the back variant info, along with other stuff
http://t206resource.com/Article-T206...ltipliers.html
Attached Images
File Type: jpg tinker good.jpg (76.3 KB, 515 views)
File Type: jpg tinker bad.jpg (50.3 KB, 509 views)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-21-2018, 05:53 AM
iwantitiwinit's Avatar
iwantitiwinit iwantitiwinit is online now
rob.ert int.rieri
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 2,462
Default

I agree.....

Use the link provided above to download Scot Reader's Inside T206 pdf. It's free. Just click the link.

Last edited by iwantitiwinit; 03-21-2018 at 05:54 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-21-2018, 06:22 AM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,547
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the 'stache View Post

I would also download Scot Reader's Inside T206 pdf. It's free. Just click the link.

You'll find a good number of sites devoted to the Monster. I use http://t206resource.com/ quite often. That's a really great resource.
Agreed, these as well.

Also, Derek at T206 Society does a great job capsulizing overviews on rare backs and player history.

http://t206society.com/

Last edited by MVSNYC; 03-21-2018 at 06:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-21-2018, 12:06 PM
h2oya311's Avatar
h2oya311 h2oya311 is offline
Derek Granger
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3,396
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MVSNYC View Post
Agreed, these as well.

Also, Derek at T206 Society does a great job capsulizing overviews on rare backs and player history.

http://t206society.com/
Holy cr@p! You guys have your own society?? I need to push for a HOF Rookie collectors society a little harder! We will probably have membership of about three.
__________________
...
http://imageevent.com/derekgranger

HOF "Earliest" Collection (Ideal - Indiv): 244/342 (71.4%)
1914 T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps......: 114/119 (95.8%)
1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate............: 177/180 (98.3%)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-22-2018, 07:23 AM
orly57's Avatar
orly57 orly57 is offline
Orlando Rodriguez
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Miami
Posts: 979
Default

One other book I highly recommend is David Cycleback's Judging the Authenticity of Early Baseball Cards. David is one of the members of this forum. The knowledge you'll glean is applicable to any older set you might collect, and will go a long way to protect you when buying from dealers you might not know (you should always try to buy from reputable dealers/individuals if at all possible). His website also has a wealth of information on forensic analysis, which will come in handy when examining not only baseball cards, but currency and historical documents, as well. This article on forensic light is fascinating, and useful to collectors.

Is David Cycleback a Nome De Plume, or is the guy's last name really Cycleback?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-23-2018, 05:48 PM
lloydchristmas lloydchristmas is offline
Ryan
member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 109
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sreader3 View Post
Hi Ryan,

You may want to read my e-book:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t206/i...al-edition.pdf

and check out my website

t206insider.com

Enjoy the chase.

Scot Reader
Scot, awesome resource! I will definitely read it and have already begun scouring the site.

Thank you!

Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagechris View Post
The Books Deadball Stars of the American League & Deadball Stars of National League are great books to learn about the players that are on the cards. Each book takes the teams and has individual biographical write ups on the players. I learned many interesting facts about the players when I read those books.
On order, thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by orly57 View Post
One other book I highly recommend is David Cycleback's Judging the Authenticity of Early Baseball Cards. David is one of the members of this forum. The knowledge you'll glean is applicable to any older set you might collect, and will go a long way to protect you when buying from dealers you might not know (you should always try to buy from reputable dealers/individuals if at all possible). His website also has a wealth of information on forensic analysis, which will come in handy when examining not only baseball cards, but currency and historical documents, as well. This article on forensic light is fascinating, and useful to collectors.

Is David Cycleback a Nome De Plume, or is the guy's last name really Cycleback?
Awesome, thank you!
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Seeking T206 submission advice Sean Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 12 12-15-2016 06:44 AM
Seeking advice/help... Roofman4 Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 07-07-2014 08:09 PM
Somewhat new here and seeking advice ChrisH Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 14 12-10-2012 06:24 PM
T206 Cross Roads -- Seeking advice Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 14 06-28-2006 09:05 AM
New T206 Collector Seeking Advice! Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 10-14-2003 11:38 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:41 PM.


ebay GSB