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Old 02-17-2015, 12:28 PM
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No, Phil, I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen too many stories, video footage and pictures of the aftermath of a pit bull attack. It bothers me even more when it's a child.

What does California have to do with anything? Are pit bull attacks isolated to only California?

I really hate to bring this up, but I found your posts a bit ironic considering the stances and arguments you make as a hyper-vigilant gun rights advocate.

Rationalizations are brought up like, Pools are dangerous to, why don't we ban pools. Kids die in pools all the time.

From statistics I can find 307 people total have been killed in the U.S. AND Canada by Pit Bulls and Pit Bull mixes in the 32 year span of 1982 to 2014. That's "total"! Kids, Adults, etc......

http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/32-year-...ack-trends.pdf


Now, I'm going to forget about total gun deaths per year in the U.S. alone, because that's just not fair. Total accidental gun deaths alone.........scrap that out because it's just a vulgar number.

How about just total "accidental" gun deaths in the U.S. alone for children under the age of 18. It's a tough statistic to even pin down, but it seems it ranges in the "100" number.....per year. About half that if you count children under the age of 13.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...-we-dont-know/


I won't even get into the number of people maimed by dogs (all dogs), compared to the number of people maimed by guns.

But I bet, depending on the state you live in, you can bring any number of guns into a PetSmart, without any repercussions at all.

Funny, it just so happens the gun lobby is far more powerful then the pit bull lobby.

You may claim none of this makes any sense to you, they are strawman arguments, not relevant to the point...........but I would disagree with you, especially if I chose to attack with the same logic you are to this topic.
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Old 02-17-2015, 12:37 PM
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I'm expressing my own opinions which I've formed during my own experiences. You are telling me my experiences are invalid because of someone else's third hand account. But you have nothing to add yourself. So that is frustrating for many other reasons than the hypothetical arguments you're making.

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Old 02-17-2015, 12:39 PM
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As to the original poster in this thread. I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. Depending on what state you live in, it's pretty cut and dry regarding dog bites that you could get a fairly significant payout from the homeowners insurance company, should you want to go that route, without very much resistance at all. Especially if your injuries have been well documented.

Myself, in my 6 year career as a UPS delivery driver, I was bitten a good half a dozen times by different dogs. Never really serious, except for one time. Always had it taken care of at an urgent care center, and then UPS's insurance company would go after them to cover the health care costs, whatever they might have been. I never went after them personally for compensation, but might have a different view if I was attacked as bad as you were.
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Old 02-17-2015, 12:46 PM
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Pit bulls were originally bred for blood sports. That is documented fact, whether anybody agrees or not. They were bred to attack and kill. Period.

Let's say I own both a gun and a pit bull. I can control whether my gun kills or not. I cannot control whether my pit bull is going to attack or not.

You're right, I don't think it's relevant, but I did address it.
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Old 02-17-2015, 12:48 PM
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Most modern dogs were bred to hunt or provide protection for their masters (i.e. attacking intruders). That is a moot point.

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Old 02-17-2015, 12:55 PM
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Most modern dogs were bred to hunt. That is a moot point.
There is a huge difference in blood sports (for entertainment purposes) and hunting. If you don't understand the difference between the two, I don't know what else to say.
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Old 02-17-2015, 12:56 PM
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I do understand the differences but I would bet a dog does not.
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:45 PM
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I can't understand a statement that all pit bulls should be euthanized. I am not really into blanket statements in general. That being said, I agree that the pit bull breed seems to be the most dangerous and have the most horrific stories associated with them.

The only experience that I have personally is that my cousin and her husband own a pit bill. They have no kids, so their dog is like a child to them. The dog has interacted with many generations of our family and he is friendly and lovable. If David were to try to euthanize their pet, I would suggest he bring an arsenal. My cousin's husband is also a gun collector .

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