Bogus Bronko's on ebay

[TanksAndSpartans]

I was searching "sold" listings for Chicles tonight and stumbled on these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-Nationa...p2047675.l2557

Reprints? - obviously a zero feedback seller and raw cards are red flags, but just looking at the cards themselves I'm not seeing issues - could they be counterfeits?

[revmoran]

I was watching that one - I didn't see issues either and I had to keep telling my self "self, if it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true."

I also thought the reprint issues was too cleverly skirted for the seller to be simply inexperienced -
Selling these 2 cards together.
1935 National Chicle cards if
Bronko Nagurski and Knute Rockne.
Cards are not professionally graded and are being sold as Reprints as to ebay rules.
Cards are sold as is, please see scans and ask any questions.

my bold text - what rule is that? if they are reprints you have to sell them as reprints?

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by revmoran

I was watching that one - I didn't see issues either and I had to keep telling my self "self, if it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true."

I also thought the reprint issues was too cleverly skirted for the seller to be simply inexperienced -
Selling these 2 cards together.
1935 National Chicle cards if
Bronko Nagurski and Knute Rockne.
Cards are not professionally graded and are being sold as Reprints as to ebay rules.
Cards are sold as is, please see scans and ask any questions.

my bold text - what rule is that? if they are reprints you have to sell them as reprints?

Same thought process for me. Also the edges are just too "well rounded". You don't often see cards with completely rounded edges like that that don't have creases and other significant wear on the front/back. When the corners are really beaten up, usually the entire card is beaten up as well.

jeff

[nearmint]

Cards are not professionally graded and are being sold as Reprints as to ebay rules.

I have seen these weasel words in listings from several other sellers--or, more likely, the same seller under several eBay IDs. The seller knows the cards are fake, but he wants bidders to think that maybe they're not.

I also thought the reprint issues was too cleverly skirted for the seller to be simply inexperienced -

Yes, he knows what he's doing. Don't fall for it.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Thanks guys, I agree - nothing about this felt right.

Jeff, good catch - I have a few cards graded "3" that are really well preserved, but the corners.... each corner is different - usually one is worse than the others etc. Here we see 8 corners that all look about the same - artificial aging would seem a logical culprit. It still bothers me, the cards look as good as they do. The cynical part of me says someone may bid o these not because they thing they are real, but because they think they may get past a TPG. Hopefully, that wouldn't happen.

[revmoran]

Buyer left positive feedback on the Bronco/Rockne auction - would love to be able to keep track if buyer submits for authentication and grade

[jefferyepayne]

Another Nags that looks bogus.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121859513645...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

jeff