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Old 07-14-2016, 11:38 AM
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Default 1997 - 1st Bowman vs. Bowman Chrome

Hi,

I am looking at two 1997 Bowman Aramis Ramirez RC's. One says "1st Bowman Card" and has a black border, and the other says "Bowman Chrome" and has a silver border. They both have the same picture of Ramirez and the same stats on the back.

Which one of these is considered his true RC, or do you consider them both equal? I know Bowman cards today will say "1st Bowman Chrome Card" on them. Did they not say this in 1997?

PS - I'm picking up collecting again for the first time in about 25 yrs, so I'm still getting used to "newer" cards.

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Old 07-15-2016, 12:31 PM
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1st Bowman Card does not mean RC, especially nowadays.

There are both RCs. The Chrome doesn't have the 1st logo because the regular Bowman is the 1st.
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Old 07-15-2016, 12:44 PM
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1st Bowman Card does not mean RC, especially nowadays.

There are both RCs. The Chrome doesn't have the 1st logo because the regular Bowman is the 1st.
Sorry, by RC, I meant the first time the player appears on a major brand card. I know that is not the case now with RC's.

So are you saying that despite both being 1997 cards, the "1st Bowman Card" was issued before the "Bowman Chrome Card"?
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Old 07-15-2016, 01:41 PM
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So are you saying that despite both being 1997 cards, the "1st Bowman Card" was issued before the "Bowman Chrome Card"?
Yes

1997 Bowman cards were released before Bowman Chrome, so his Bowman card is his "first Bowman card".

Later in 1997, Bowman Chrome was released.

They are still both his RCs. One version was just produced and released slightly before the other. Much the same as it is today with Topps and Topps Chrome. Topps baseball comes out first, then a few months later Topps Chrome is released.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:36 AM
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Yes

1997 Bowman cards were released before Bowman Chrome, so his Bowman card is his "first Bowman card".

Later in 1997, Bowman Chrome was released.

They are still both his RCs. One version was just produced and released slightly before the other. Much the same as it is today with Topps and Topps Chrome. Topps baseball comes out first, then a few months later Topps Chrome is released.
Interesting, I didn't know that. What do you think collectors value the most, 1st Bowman (came out first) or Bowman Chrome (nicer card) if they are from the same year?
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:35 AM
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Interesting, I didn't know that. What do you think collectors value the most, 1st Bowman (came out first) or Bowman Chrome (nicer card) if they are from the same year?

The saying goes that 'Chrome is King!' and the prices reflect that!
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and , these days, the Bowman Draft autos tend to go for more $$$ than either the bowman paper or chrome (unless it's a chrome refractor autograph insert in a rare color in Bowman Draft)
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Old 07-19-2016, 11:11 PM
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They do? This is news to me. Unless you mean Bowman Chrome Draft.

The Chrome autos of a player are the card to have.

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and , these days, the Bowman Draft autos tend to go for more $$$ than either the bowman paper or chrome (unless it's a chrome refractor autograph insert in a rare color in Bowman Draft)
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