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Old 02-26-2023, 02:31 PM
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Default I don't get the insane Julio Rodriguez Hype

That was a very nice season by a 22 year old, don't get me wrong. But it wasn't other-worldly. .853 OPS and we're all losing our minds? Really?
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Old 02-26-2023, 02:46 PM
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How did you feel about Griffey after his first season? Is it always hype?
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Old 02-26-2023, 02:48 PM
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He had a 147 OPS+ which was Top 10 in all of MLB, as a 22 year old rookie, that pretty special.
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Definitely over-hyped, as most young players are these days.

Potential though to be a very good player.

He kind of choked in the Playoffs last year, but again he is young, so we'll see.

Griffey Jr was only 19 his first season, Rodriquez was 22. 3 year difference is pretty big. No way I compare him to Jr at this point.

But again he could/should be a very good player. Just over-hyped at the moment.
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He’s a generational talent playing centerfield for Seattle. Why not talk about him in relation to Griffey?

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He’s a generational talent playing centerfield for Seattle. Why not talk about him in relation to Griffey?
Because it's one year. We treat these guys like they're guaranteed careers like Griffey (and frankly you can buy Griffey rookies cheaper, but don't get me started) Let's say he turns out to be George Springer. That's great for the Mariners as Springer is a fine player, but when's the last time you saw anyone give a damn about his cards?

Don't make me hop in the wayback machine and bring up our disagreement of the value of Corey Dickerson
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Who wasn’t hyped in your opinion? Meaning who did you hear about see play and think it was the real thing? If not Julio.

Griffey was a god before he was a MLB superstar too. There’s a reason he was the first card in 89 UD. He hit 264 that year. People had a feeling they knew what they were looking at though.

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Definitely over-hyped, as most young players are these days.

Potential though to be a very good player.

He kind of choked in the Playoffs last year, but again he is young, so we'll see.

Griffey Jr was only 19 his first season, Rodriquez was 22. 3 year difference is pretty big. No way I compare him to Jr at this point.

But again he could/should be a very good player. Just over-hyped at the moment.
So many come hyped and then flame out look at Gary Sanchez former Catcher Yankees and was supposed to be the next generation of catcher’s and instead he cannot even stay on the field because of his defense and strikes out way to much.

I hope Rodriquez succeeds but his season was good but agreed over hyped
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So many come hyped and then flame out look at Gary Sanchez former Catcher Yankees and was supposed to be the next generation of catcher’s and instead he cannot even stay on the field because of his defense and strikes out way to much.

I hope Rodriquez succeeds but his season was good but agreed over hyped
Its the potential thats the drug to the bidders but the bar is very very high , to meet the bar the first year is a little bit easier then the 2nd year......if no huge improvement the 2nd year, on to the next rookie, unless the player is 20 years old etc..
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He had a 147 OPS+ which was Top 10 in all of MLB, as a 22 year old rookie, that pretty special.
Fred Lynn at 23 as a rookie had OPS+ 162

Rice was at only 120.

One year of good numbers may mean something or may not.
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Fred Lynn at 23 as a rookie had OPS+ 162

Rice was at only 120.

One year of good numbers may mean something or may not.
Pete Alonso was 148. Dick Allen 162. Jose Abreu 173.
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Every year lately someone gets overhyped because flippers are looking for the next Mike Trout hobby darling. Luis robert, Jared Kelenic, Wander Franco etc. and every year someone overpays and gets left holding the bag when everyone moves onto the next prospect


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He had a great rookie year and certainly looks like a great player, but this is baseball, who the hell knows what the future holds. Some like him have gone on to be great players, many have not.
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