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Old 05-22-2012, 06:58 AM
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http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...a-grade-makes/

I find it LUDICROUS money or not, that people would pay THAT Much money for a card that is probably only different than a 9 by being able to use a 600000x solar electron microscope that is only at top power during the quarter moon.

Simply, a status symbol for needing to own the "only 10". this is why Ive hated grading, cept for its ability to detect fakes/trimmed/altered cards.

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Old 05-22-2012, 07:37 AM
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Agreed....interesting article, i did not even know that there was a psa 10 clemente rookie.....
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:53 AM
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So are you calling me LUDICROUS for buying that PSA 10 Aaron RC???

Oh wait, I meant SGC 10... My bad...
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:55 AM
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I think it's worth keeping in mind that everyone has a personal threshold for what is ludicrous. While some people's may be the premium paid for a 10 over a 9, others would consider $100 for a piece of cardboard ludicrous. To each their own.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:58 AM
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others would consider $100 for a piece of cardboard ludicrous.
Good point.

In the grand scheme of things, we all collect cardboard pictures of dead guys who used to play a game. There's not a whole lot of intrinsic value in that. (...says the guys who has spent more than he cares to admit)
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The prices do seem crazy but the label says "10" and that's what they are buying. The "9" may look just as nice but the label doesn't read "10", it reads "9." And that's all the difference in the world.

You also have to appreciate just how much money some people have, so paying six figures sums for some of these cards may not be a big deal to them.

I find the sale fascinating and the question I would ask is not how someone could afford 432K for a Clemente, but why someone would actually think it is worth that much. I bet you would get some interesting answers.
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I find the sale fascinating and the question I would ask is not how someone could afford 432K for a Clemente, but why someone would actually think it is worth that much. I bet you would get some interesting answers.
For friendly debate........I am not saying this as necessarily a bad thing but I think I can sum up why it is worth 423k in one word. Ego.

I even admit to collecting and having an "ego" doing it. Why would we ever pay 100s or 1000s for these pieces of cardboard otherwise.
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The real question here is: What if SGC graded a Clemente rookie SGC 100? And what the heck is the difference between Gem Mint and Pristine anyways?!
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Again Gary, thanks for the post.
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Here is the high end grading scale for SGC, PSA, and BVG, respectively. Note that PSA does not have Pristine and BVG has 9.5, which it considers Gem Mint (equating to PSA 10 and SGC 98).
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"to each his own"

the only problem with this statement is whether this purchase has any aggregate effects on the market. if this guy is willing to spend that much money for the card - great for him. but if his extravagant spending has an effect on the rest of the market such that lower grade collectors get priced out (e.g. PSA 7's increase in price by X%), then i wouldnt simply just cast this off as a case of "to each his own." if i was searching for a PSA 7 Aaron and find that this purchase all of sudden bumps up the price of the card, on average, by X amount of dollars, i would be a bit miffed.

however, this is such an extreme outlier that im not sure if it does have an effect (on the demand side at least..supply side, we may see more PSA 8's and 9's flood the market (as someone indirectly alluded to earlier)- which may or may not dampen the cost effect, at least in the long term) - and if it does, it would be relegated to the higher graded cards. of course, if i was a high grade collector, i would be miffed - but, maybe not so much given that the marginal increase in the price of a, say, PSA 8 Aaron, may not have such an impact on a high grade collector's marginal willingness to pay. Maybe it has an effect on PSA 9 and 10 collectors - at that point, were talking about a small proportion of the collecting community.

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These were replies I expected. I guess my motivation for the thread was partly of jealousy, as well as people spending more than I could make, if working, in TEN years on a piece of cardboard.

But, it is up to people themselves. it was just an opinion.
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what the heck is the difference between Gem Mint and Pristine anyways?!
About the same as the difference between probation and double-secret probation.

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...supply side, we may see more PSA 8's and 9's flood the market...
Along with increased demand for laser cutters.
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I find it LUDICROUS money or not, that people would pay THAT Much money for a card that is probably only different than a 9 by being able to use a 600000x solar electron microscope that is only at top power during the quarter moon.

Simply, a status symbol for needing to own the "only 10". this is why Ive hated grading, cept for its ability to detect fakes/trimmed/altered cards.

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I have found a PSA grader he sells raw cards on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-Ar...item27c71b9d6e

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