February Pick-Ups...

[smrtn240]

I sure hope not..no I'm 99% sure that it is the real deal
But yes you are currect pawpaw, there were fakes that weren't stamped produced in the 80's I believe. One clear indicator would be the black outline on Rose's helmet.

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

It's great that SGC is into authenticating autos now, but I have concerns over who is doing it. It's not enough to say "hey, we're doing this now" if the people behind the scenes have somewhat questionable skills.

Mike Root was Director of Authentication at James Spence, and I've read several horror stories as to the accuracy of JSA's "opinions". Authenticating signatures that were later deemed forgeries, autographs obtained in person being opined as a fake. It doesn't matter how many autographs this person has purchased over the years. What matters is the accuracy with which each individual autograph is considered. I don't want to pay somebody $50 bucks for an auto on a $1,000 card if they're just going to look at it and say "ya, that looks right". For the authentication to be accurate, the signature in question should be compared to known, authenticated examples. They need to be looking at the signature under magnification, and I just don't know if this service is spending the time necessary.

The important thing to remember is that when you pay for this service, you are purchasing an opinion. I know that people on Ebay think that having a PSA/DNA, or a JSA authentication is a gold mine. All I'm saying is exercise caution. Never has the phrase "caveat emptor" been more appropriate.

SGC Authentic Press Release

SGC has recently developed a new autograph authentication division (SGC Authentic). The division will be headed by Mike Root (Director of Authentication/Senior Authenticator). Mike has owned and operated sports collectibles stores for the past 20 years. Mike has spent that time buying and selling autographs, as well as attending countless sporting events and signings where he acquired thousands of in person autographs. Mike was the former Director of Authentication and Lead Authenticator for a nationally recognized third party authentication service for the past three years. With a wide range of knowledge and a top notch team of consultants SGC is looking forward to authenticating autographs throughout the hobby.

[savedfrommyspokes]

I came across this 80 T Fred Stanley card with the yellow print variation...any ideas on if this is a tough card or not? The next card is a 1967 Topps FB card of Ben Davidson (I know this is the BB forum), BUT, it is mis cut and has the edge of a 68 Topps baseball card on it's bottom edge. Does anyone have any ideas how a 67 FB card would be cut next to a 68 BB card?? Were the 68 BB and 67 FB cards on the same sheets, or were the sheets themselves from the same group of card stock?

[Harliduck]

Chipped another 54 Topps monster off the list, getting close.

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I came across this 80 T Fred Stanley card with the yellow print variation...any ideas on if this is a tough card or not? The next card is a 1967 Topps FB card of Ben Davidson (I know this is the BB forum), BUT, it is mis cut and has the edge of a 68 Topps baseball card on it's bottom edge. Does anyone have any ideas how a 67 FB card would be cut next to a 68 BB card?? Were the 68 BB and 67 FB cards on the same sheets, or were the sheets themselves from the same group of card stock?

The Ben Davidson card is from the 1968 Milton Bradley board game "Win-a-card". The board game had 1967 T FB, 1968 T BB, and some Topps Roadster cards.

http://jul10.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=23253

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotIdNo=13001

[Bestdj777]

I just picked this one up off of ebay. I was so excited to come across the Tab variation of this that I didn't examine the picture all that well before bidding. Anyone have any idea what the gray foam material is around the inside? Given the wear on the inside and out, I would say this is legit. Just not sure if it came with this or not. Never seen another with that rubbery material on it.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Thanks Randy....this makes perfect sense. In comparing the color of the back of this 67 FB card, it matches the color of my 68 BB MBs cards perfectly. And as with the 68 MB BB having a slightly different color on the back than the regular issue, the same is true with the 67 MB FB. Thanks again

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

I just picked this one up off of ebay. I was so excited to come across the Tab variation of this that I didn't examine the picture all that well before bidding. Anyone have any idea what the gray foam material is around the inside? Given the wear on the inside and out, I would say this is legit. Just not sure if it came with this or not. Never seen another with that rubbery material on it.

I have noticed that the Yankees and Mets are the only two teams with 1967 Coca Cola caps made that way, apparently the bottling plant in the New York area had a unique way of manufacturing the caps. Each teams caps were made by the local bottling plant.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I came across this 80 T Fred Stanley card with the yellow print variation...any ideas on if this is a tough card or not? The next card is a 1967 Topps FB card of Ben Davidson (I know this is the BB forum), BUT, it is mis cut and has the edge of a 68 Topps baseball card on it's bottom edge. Does anyone have any ideas how a 67 FB card would be cut next to a 68 BB card?? Were the 68 BB and 67 FB cards on the same sheets, or were the sheets themselves from the same group of card stock?

Most of the eleven cards on the top row of each of the E* and F* sheets from the 1980 Topps set were affected by a printing flaw where the red ink didn't go all the way to the top of the card. There are varying degrees of the depth, and each card is affected differently, some in the name, some in the position pennant, and some in the top border line. The affected cards that I know of are Ted Cox, Sammy Stewart, Junior Kennedy, Junior Moore, Fred Stanley, John Wathan, Dave Rader, Reggie Cleveland, Steve Braun, Harry Chappas, Tom Poquette, Rafael Landestoy, U. L. Washington, and Will McEnaney. There are several on eBay, usually $50-$100.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I have noticed that the Yankees and Mets are the only two teams with 1967 Coca Cola caps made that way, apparently the bottling plant in the New York area had a unique way of manufacturing the caps. Each teams caps were made by the local bottling plant.

Thanks Cliff. Very interesting. Glad to hear it is something from the factory.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Thanks Cliff for the info on the 80's cards!

[bravesfan22]

Got this in the mail today:

[ALR-bishop]

Great card Adam.

Cliff---I have all the 1980 yellow oddities you mention ( although in several the name is not affected), except Cox. Do you have it and if so can you pm me a scan or describe it. Also, I have a Scarberry which seems to be similar to the ones you list


Al

[pawpawdiv9]

whew, thank you..i already have that Mantle card....I sure hope im not bidding on items you other Mantle buyers are interested in. I have what seems to be a good bunch..but sticking to the cards is tough...theres so much other stuff thats cool to have.
Looking to grab a Dan-Dee one of these days.

[paleocards]

I picked-up this beauty from PWCC's recently concluded auction:

[ALR-bishop]

Very nice, Pale

[Harliduck]

Nothing like realizing a childhood dream...





Got the Kaline and Aaron in the same week, time to relax and enjoy. My midgrade 54 set is looking pretty good...only Banks and Mays left for the big boys. I'll be staring at the Aaron for hours...can't believe I FINALLY own one.

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by Harliduck

Nothing like realizing a childhood dream...





Got the Kaline and Aaron in the same week, time to relax and enjoy. My midgrade 54 set is looking pretty good...only Banks and Mays left for the big boys. I'll be staring at the Aaron for hours...can't believe I FINALLY own one.

Great pick up John. The Aaron rookie is always a keeper.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Great card Adam.

Cliff---I have all the 1980 yellow oddities you mention ( although in several the name is not affected), except Cox. Do you have it and if so can you pm me a scan or describe it. Also, I have a Scarberry which seems to be similar to the ones you list


Al

It took me forever to find it. It's on the E* Sheet along with the Fred Stanley, John Wathan, and the Junior Kennedy. I haven't found any variations of the other seven cards in the row yet, maybe the flaw begins with the Ted Cox card.

[ALR-bishop]

Thanks, Cliff. What are the other 7 cards ?

[chaddurbin]

the result of a wtb: rose post on here a couple months back. another all-topps rookie card checked off.

[CW]

Great Aaron rookie, John. You cannot get more classic.

[the 'stache]

John, I love that Aaron.

[pochards]

Nice Aaron John! Can't wait to see it. You're really knocking off the big boys of those 54's!

[bbcard1]

I'm not sure I killed it on the price ($50) but nonetheless a pleasant surprise tucked among the shiny at the local mall show.

[pochards]

There are some nice cards posted! Here are a few of my recent pick ups....

Here is a nice stack of 59's I got in the mail yesterday.


And a few Mantles! I love getting Mantles!


An upgrade to my 65 Mantle... My brother John now owns my other one! The fun part about brothers collecting is the trading we get to do!

[the 'stache]

Nice cards, Jason!

Who doesn't love collecting Mantles, lol.

[ALR-bishop]

Mantle is Mantle. How about that Curt Raydon

[pochards]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Mantle is Mantle. How about that Curt Raydon

I agree! Anyone can own a Mantle! But a Curt Raydon rookie card...priceless!

[ALR-bishop]

Jason---it really is one of my favorite 59 cards, and 59 was the first set I finished as a kid. Look up his bio sometime

[pochards]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Jason---it really is one of my favorite 59 cards, and 59 was the first set I finished as a kid. Look up his bio sometime

59's were cards I remember seeing as a kid and loving them!

Thanks for having me look up info on Curt. He looked like he might have really been a good pitcher had it not be for his arm troubles. Pitching only 1 season and having a 8-4 record with a 4-hit shutout against the Giants was pretty good. After his arm tightness in 59 pitching in AAA he never pitched again and became a policeman. Very interesting!

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Jason---it really is one of my favorite 59 cards, and 59 was the first set I finished as a kid. Look up his bio sometime

Ok Al, you've piqued my curiosity. Pitched one year in the majors, was 8-4 with a 3.67 ERA. If I'm a manager, that's a guy that's getting a roster spot, or at the very least, an invite to spring training in 1959. But that was it for him. Out of the majors at 24 years of age.

Wikipedia's limited page for him doesn't mention anything peculiar. So what happened?

[the 'stache]

Hmm,

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Curt_Raydon

Seems he developed a cyst on the middle finger of his pitching hand, and arm issues, and was sent to AAA the next season. Never made it back to the majors.

Well, if you're only going to make it for one season, that's not a bad one to have. Bet he has some stories to tell the kids and grandkids. He played with a couple future Hall of Famers in Clemente and Mazerowski.

[Harliduck]

Picked up this cool card...I've never owned a Ralph Kiner, and I still don't, lol. Part of a trade with Jason my brother for his extra 65 Mantle and for his 54 Bowman set...

[David W]

I never used to like the 54 Bowman's, but have developed an affinity for them lately.

I'm not sure why, maybe the facsimile auto at the bottom, and the good pictures.

Nice Kiner.

[the 'stache]

Nice Kiner, but I'll never get used to seeing him in anything but a Pirates uni.

I picked up my first Kiner about a month and a half ago, a nice 1953 Bowman. I've always liked him, and have felt he's a little underrated for somebody that won 7 straight home run titles.

[ALR-bishop]

He had a 1960 Topps card too. As Jason mentioned he became a cop and retired to Jasper in east Texas. I think he still signs autos from

131 Peachtree Rd
Jasper, Tx 75951

[t206blogcom]

[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Nice Kiner, but I'll never get used to seeing him in anything but a Pirates uni.

I picked up my first Kiner about a month and a half ago, a nice 1953 Bowman. I've always liked him, and have felt he's a little underrated for somebody that won 7 straight home run titles.

Couldn't agree more...I remember as a kid holding him in high value due to his two 50 HR years as well, anyone doing that was a God to me. Until Brady Anderson hit 50...


Another new card...down to one more for the set...Bench makes 719...

[Harliduck]

Wow, nice Billy Williams and others Jason...

[t206blogcom]

Originally Posted by Harliduck

Wow, nice Billy Williams and others Jason...

Thanks John!

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by Harliduck

Couldn't agree more...I remember as a kid holding him in high value due to his two 50 HR years as well, anyone doing that was a God to me. Until Brady Anderson hit 50...


Another new card...down to one more for the set...Bench makes 719...

I just picked up the final card I needed for my 1970 complete set the other day. It was #702....the Bench was the 2nd to last card I picked up!

Congrats,

Rob

[39special]

Added a couple to my Dodger collection

[pochards]

Love those 55's! Especially the Hodges. Great cards!

[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by Robextend

I just picked up the final card I needed for my 1970 complete set the other day. It was #702....the Bench was the 2nd to last card I picked up!

Congrats,

Rob

Wow Rob, that is crazy! What are the odds...congrats on finishing!

Unfortunately for me my last card is #712... Ive been picky and want a good price. I normally get stars first and build around them, but I just haven't found the right deal/card. I am on the hunt!

No joke on my 702....I bought my 700 Frank Robinson, and the seller inserted that card in as a "thank you" pretty early on in my quest on this set. I was VERY surprised and pleased...they got good feedback! lol...

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by Harliduck

Wow Rob, that is crazy! What are the odds...congrats on finishing!

Unfortunately for me my last card is #712... Ive been picky and want a good price. I normally get stars first and build around them, but I just haven't found the right deal/card. I am on the hunt!

No joke on my 702....I bought my 700 Frank Robinson, and the seller inserted that card in as a "thank you" pretty early on in my quest on this set. I was VERY surprised and pleased...they got good feedback! lol...

That's awesome, I have been helped along the way by other collector's generosity as well...I try to pay it forward. 712 is a tricky one!! I got lucky, bought one raw on ebay...scan was kind of inconclusive and was happily surprised when it arrived. Good luck finding one that fits your set! Keep us posted.

[novakjr]

It's been about 3 weeks since I've bought anything other than modern AUTO's.. It's good to get a break from the shiny-signed stuff every once in a while..

[pepis]

Recent pick-up from a local weekly show, off center but sharp otherwise

[ALR-bishop]

... are infrequent and light weight in San Antonio....sigh

[pepis]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

... are infrequent and light weight in San Antonio....sigh

Here in So Cal we have/had an ongoing show every wed/sat for about
25 years running now easilly the most successful collectibles show,
probably in the whole country, over 2,000 people show up every time.
(Frank & sons)