T206 Green Cobby.....yet again

[bobbyw8469]

The negatives for the PSA graded cards disturbs me. Yes, I realize they seller is doing some nefarious stuff. HOWEVER, why are buyers leaving negatives on PSA cards!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I think its funny how people like to look at historical pricing VCP as binding.

This exact same card with same seller in same type of auction sold for:

$4050 March 7
$3650 March 21
$2939 April 2
$1800 April 30


Hmmm, im going to take a wild guess the card will fall below VCP average even though its a super centered card...and will also fall below $1800.....

(the listing does say authentic now and the card was trimmed)

Correct me if i am wrong, but with this new listing, i dont think this listing is any less accurate than the average ebay seller listing., assuming no markings on it ..

This card has been sold 7 or 8 times in the last year and 3 times since April
but the one that sold on April 30 was a different card, this one has a brown
spot on his shoulder and a different cut.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw...trait&_sacat=0

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Most, maybe 99% of her listings are total BS. This one at least she is clearly saying the card won't grade and measures short. Apparently after it was sold and returned 4 times. But if I were bidding on this card I would know what I was getting from the description. This is unusual from the battlefield listings I have seen in the past that are clearly designed to deceive bidders.

If it wasn't designed to deceive someone, she would just tell the truth, that it was trimmed. That she doesn't tells me it is designed to deceive, although perhaps less so than other listings.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If it wasn't designed to deceive someone, she would just tell the truth, that it was trimmed. That she doesn't tells me it is designed to deceive, although perhaps less so than other listings.

I think we mostly agree on this issue in general and are splitting hairs on the Cobb. I think battlefield is horrible for our hobby and should be banned from ebay. I hope no one took my comments as a defense of her business practices.

In general on any raw card listing if a seller says a card won't get a numerical grade, and measures short, I know one of two things. They know the card is trimmed, or its been submitted and came back trimmed or min size zero and can't receive a grade. This is close enough for me, and if I were still interested I would bid what I feel a nice psa A is worth.

[Leon]

+1 - Very deceptive but maybe not enough to get the boot from ebay. Can anyone imagine what their email inbox and ebay inbox must look like with all of their problems? I might give a few bucks just to look at those....

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If it wasn't designed to deceive someone, she would just tell the truth, that it was trimmed. That she doesn't tells me it is designed to deceive, although perhaps less so than other listings.

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

The negatives for the PSA graded cards disturbs me. Yes, I realize they seller is doing some nefarious stuff. HOWEVER, why are buyers leaving negatives on PSA cards!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?

I would say even with a graded card someone can photoshop the colors to make it much more eye appealing. Graded or not you should not alter the photos of the product you are selling.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Marchillo

I would say even with a graded card someone can photoshop the colors to make it much more eye appealing. Graded or not you should not alter the photos of the product you are selling.

You can smooth over certain types of defects as well as enhance colors and eye appeal. There have been quite a few threads over the years on this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

+1 - Very deceptive but maybe not enough to get the boot from ebay. Can anyone imagine what their email inbox and ebay inbox must look like with all of their problems? I might give a few bucks just to look at those....

If hundreds of negatives for intentionally deceptive listings isn't going to get her the boot on ebay, nothing else is either. As long as she offers a return, she is good.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If hundreds of negatives for intentionally deceptive listings isn't going to get her the boot on ebay, nothing else is either. As long as she offers a return, she is good.

In addition the reputation is so bad, that some buyers probably take advantage of it. "i never got the card' etc etc

[Leon]

At a grand if it is trimmed and not too photo-shopped it might not be a bad deal. It is a sweet looking card.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TY-COBB-PORT...RIZ&rmvSB=true

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If hundreds of negatives for intentionally deceptive listings isn't going to get her the boot on ebay, nothing else is either. As long as she offers a return, she is good.