You Guys See This E.Manning/NYG Fraud Story?

[MattyC]

This is pretty pathetic on the part of Giants players and their cohorts-- IF TRUE, of course. Would not get any lamer than a celebrity, multi-millionaire QB defrauding fans.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/30/eli-and...orabilia-suit/

[base_ball]

There's a lot going on here and I won't comment until reading the actual lawsuit...but I will say this: you have to have a screw loose to buy so-called "game-used" memorabilia, no matter the source.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by base_ball

There's a lot going on here and I won't comment until reading the actual lawsuit...but I will say this: you have to have a screw loose to buy so-called "game-used" memorabilia, no matter the source.

Agree, agree, agree x1,000,000.

[Rich Klein]

I read that article this morning and forwarded that to my editor at Sports Collectors Daily

[JEFFV96MASTERS]

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[D. Bergin]

I would think it's probably some Giant exec in charge of creating ancillary revenue streams for the team, mainly responsible for this. Pushing as much stuff through Steiner as possible, while putting the requisite pressure on the Equipment department of the team...................who will most likely be the fall guys.

I doubt Eli ever thought twice about any of this crap going on.

[OFF CENTER TRADING]

Originally Posted by base_ball

There's a lot going on here and I won't comment until reading the actual lawsuit...but I will say this: you have to have a screw loose to buy so-called "game-used" memorabilia, no matter the source.

I don't comment much on this forum, but I found the article above to be quite amusing to me personally for the following reason/situation:

Back in 2008, I won an NFL Auctions listing for a 2007 Jets (Titans) throwback jersey documented to have been "game-worn" by a close friend of mine. Upon receiving the jersey, I figured I'd either give it back to my buddy or have him autograph it as a personal keepsake for myself, later in life. Needless to say, when I showed him the jersey, he laughed...Proper size? Yes. Proper game-time alterations? NO. According to his account, he'd already snagged the real game jersey from the Jets organization. He still signed my momento, and that jersey, whatever it represents, has been stashed in a closet ever since I had it autographed at the time. No big money changed hands, and the matter was not worth pursuing further then...Funny to see these more serious accusations years later.

edited to add: At the time, NFL Auctions was an extension of the nfl.com official website. I don't know if they still offer items for sale/auction to the general public, but related COA's were on official team stationary.

[MattyC]

Perhaps Eli's guilt over this can explain his unfocused play this year and all those picks he threw, lol. Man they were tough to watch.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I hope this is not true. If it is I will be most disappointed that he did this because he did not need the $.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by base_ball

There's a lot going on here and I won't comment until reading the actual lawsuit...but I will say this: you have to have a screw loose to buy so-called "game-used" memorabilia, no matter the source.

Yes...Agree 100%...it seems a large % of the sports collectibles population has screws loose then!

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by base_ball

There's a lot going on here and I won't comment until reading the actual lawsuit...but I will say this: you have to have a screw loose to buy so-called "game-used" memorabilia, no matter the source.

To say the people who collect game used have screws loose I think is pretty stupid. There's fraud in all parts of this hobby. And just like any hobby it's called do your own research and not depend on others.

[Big Six]

Will be interesting to see the fallout if this is true, especially for Steiner! Sounds like the kind of stuff that could put them out of business overnight...


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[drcy]

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[MattyC]

Originally Posted by drcy

No opinion or insight on the claims, but what is interesting is comparatively small time dealers have recently been sentenced to prison for selling faked game used worth a lot less than a Manning Super Bowl helmet. Makes you wonder how a multi-millinaire star quarterback would be treated legally if he was the culprit.

I, too, am curious to see how the media handles their, "Aw shucks," boy scout darling as this plays out.

Of course, first and foremost it's about the veracity of the claims. But IF this ever turns out to be true, any guilty stars should be held accountable, and not shielded by hitherto sterling reputations, or PR-crisis machines, or media who think a memorabilia fraud is not a big deal story-- as, say, compared to trash talking post-game tirades that become national front page news.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by drcy

As a disclaimer, I am neither a lawyer nor watch Law & Order. Though the guy at the end of my block is a lawyer and my nextdoor neighbor is an optometrist.

Sounds authoritative enough for me

[drcy]

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[drcy]

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[oldjudge]

As someone who at one time collected "game worn" football jerseys, I have to agree that it is crazy to collect them. Add to the list collecting autographs, and other game used equipment. Unless you see the player sign it (tough for old timers) or see the player take off the equipment and hand it to you, there is a decent chance the item is fake.

[ullmandds]

I wouldn't be sad if Steiner went out of business...personally. I mean they sell "dirt" from yankee stadium for a ridiculous amount of $$$$!

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Unless you see the player sign it (tough for old timers) or see the player take off the equipment and hand it to you, there is a decent chance the item is fake.

You mean like this??? (Sorry couldn't resist )

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As someone who at one time collected "game worn" football jerseys, I have to agree that it is crazy to collect them. Add to the list collecting autographs, and other game used equipment. Unless you see the player sign it (tough for old timers) or see the player take off the equipment and hand it to you, there is a decent chance the item is fake.

I think this is the painful, honest truth. If you didn't collect it yourself, you very well may be throwing your money away.

[iwantitiwinit]

That sale was the best completion he had all year.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

That sale was the best completion he had all year.

Well played, sir.

[JasonL]

[QUOTE=Big Six;1234203]Will be interesting to see the fallout if this is true, especially for Steiner! Sounds like the kind of stuff that could put them out of business overnight...


And wouldn't THAT be a shame!

[RichardSimon]

[QUOTE=JasonL;1234901]

Originally Posted by Big Six

Will be interesting to see the fallout if this is true, especially for Steiner! Sounds like the kind of stuff that could put them out of business overnight...


And wouldn't THAT be a shame!

Would that mean no more chances to buy Joe Schlabatnik's (sp) autographed rookie photo for $395??? .

[4815162342]

[QUOTE=RichardSimon;1234904]

Originally Posted by JasonL

Would that mean no more chances to buy Joe Schlabatnik's (sp) autographed rookie photo for $395??? .

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