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Old 02-13-2018, 08:23 PM
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If the suckers come embedded, and I tend to think they do, there are two ways to remove them. Pop them out which tends to create some distortion around the hole, or cut the bottom off to avoid the pop out. Would not either be alteration of the card as retailed.

I guess since the card and sucker were produced separately and the sucker inserted before packaging, the card without the sucker could be viewed as unaltered.

I realize as to this issue it hardly matters, but with all the debate on the main board about what can be legitimately done to a card without altering it, I just thought the question interesting.
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I would see it as altered. Part of the original product was removed.
I can see a bit of leniency for cards like Redmans with a tab that was intended to be removed, but the suction cups weren't so.....


I wouldn't want ones without them.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:35 PM
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PSA doesn't seem to grade them with the sucker attached.
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That’s because the sucker is the one who mailed it to PSA
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PSA doesn't seem to grade them with the sucker attached.
They probably would not fit in the holder if they did.
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Do the suckers just pop out or do you have to physically cut them out? Like the 61 Baseball keychains the plastic key chain just pops off and the card slides out. So PSA can slab the card, but i still have the original keychains if i ever want to put them back into the original state Maybe save your suckers! lol
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Do the suckers just pop out or do you have to physically cut them out? Like the 61 Baseball keychains the plastic key chain just pops off and the card slides out. So PSA can slab the card, but i still have the original keychains if i ever want to put them back into the original state Maybe save your suckers! lol
They have to be cut to avoid damaging the card.
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:31 PM
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They can be popped out, or back in again. They can also be cut. If popped I guess there is a risk the hole will no longer be "mint"

I feel we are addressing a hobby issue of both first impression and of some importance.
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