Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed

[Leon]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Ah, that makes sense. Didn't spot that one in the 50 posts in a day since I last read the thread. DragonWagon trying to update their altered card database, glad to see it.

Dragonwagon is a troll in my book. He belongs back on BO.

[Mozzie22]

Originally Posted by Leon

Dragonwagon is a troll in my book. He belongs back on BO.

Leon- Just wondering why you aren't publicly condemning this Willjaimet guy? He's obviously a known "bad guy" in the hobby. The evidence and his own responses are proof enough. Seems odd.

[G1911]

How is the guy trying to ID the altered cards the bad guy here? Am I missing something?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Mozzie22

Leon- Just wondering why you aren't publicly condemning this Willjaimet guy? He's obviously a known "bad guy" in the hobby. The evidence and his own responses are proof enough. Seems odd.

I absolutely don't condone his answers or his actions. IF he committed fraud, and he looks like he did from what I can see and read, then I hope authorities will handle it. It's too bad too.
Please don't read more into it than what it is. I haven't spoken with him in 15? years. He text me out of the blue and I will almost always afford someone the opportunity to explain themselves. He won't be permitted on the BST with the answers he gave either. And the forum probably isn't the best place for him also, and after this shitshow dies down, the door will be shown. More questions on where I stand?
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[Casey2296]

To be fair, everybody deserves a shot at redemption, they also deserve to swing from the tree when they kick the stool out from under themselves.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

To be fair, everybody deserves a shot at redemption, they also deserve to swing from the tree when they kick the stool out from under themselves.

I don't think his offenses are THAT bad

[raulus]

Originally Posted by G1911

I don't think his offenses are THAT bad

I suspect some among us might find death to be a suitable punishment for card doctors.

Sort of like how Ben Franklin felt about counterfeiters.

And how Thomas Jefferson felt about bankers.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by raulus

I suspect some among us might find death to be a suitable punishment for card doctors.

Sort of like how Ben Franklin felt about counterfeiters.

And how Thomas Jefferson felt about bankers.

I find that one tends to lose the moral high ground when it starts to get to the hanging squad hyperbole.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Dragonwagon is a troll in my book. He belongs back on BO.

Dragonwagon has put together an enormously helpful database of altered cards, at great effort. A troll?? Not seeing that one.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dragonwagon has put together an enormously helpful database of altered cards, at great effort. A troll?? Not seeing that one.

No registration here....otherwise, if he is helping stop fraud, kudos to him.
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[G1911]

Tiffanycards is doing great work in cataloguing outed cards and the scammers. He's posted with the dragon wagon account that has been up for over 2 years that he's made up dates in the database before, so it seems to be tiffanycards account. Shame to see them banned from here instead of the fraudster.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Tiffanycards is doing great work in cataloguing outed cards and the scammers. He's posted with the dragon wagon account that has been up for over 2 years that he's made up dates in the database before, so it seems to be tiffanycards account. Shame to see them banned from here instead of the fraudster.

I am sure he can fix it with Leon. The guy is a huge asset.

[RCMcKenzie]

I wish he would make up a regular name to call himself, like Edward or Tim, instead of calling himself some anonymous gamer name like they do on Blowout. If I went over to Blowout and started a bunch of threads about Buchner Gold Coins, I would think they would consider me a troll.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I wish he would make up a regular name to call himself, like Edward or Tim, instead of calling himself some anonymous gamer name like they do on Blowout. If I went over to Blowout and started a bunch of threads about Buchner Gold Coins, I would think they would consider me a troll.

That's the new generation for you. @ and # and goofy handles.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I wish he would make up a regular name to call himself, like Edward or Tim, instead of calling himself some anonymous gamer name like they do on Blowout. If I went over to Blowout and started a bunch of threads about Buchner Gold Coins, I would think they would consider me a troll.

They do have a vintage section, you won’t be met with any accusations of trolling for making threads in 19th century cards. Not a ton of replies to those, most of the collectors there are modern but there is no hostility to vintage cards.

[RCMcKenzie]

I am familiar with them. I hung-out/lurked in their T210 thread for about 45 seconds yesterday.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

Dragonwagon is a troll in my book. He belongs back on BO.

Trade him for a troll to be named later.