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Old 03-09-2017, 09:18 PM
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Tebow wasn't the worst hitter on his team, close, but not the worst.

I don't hear many complaints about Matt Oberste taking anyones roster spot. (The guy with a decent number of games who was a worse hitter than Tebow. There's another, but he only played 5 games. )

Besides, the very lowest levels are instructional leagues, where players are meant to learn and to make important adjustments. Being a strong straight pull hitter will go a long way in HS, not so much in even the high minors unless you're truly amazing in other ways. So a lot of players don't do all that well in instructional leagues because they're trying stuff they haven't been required to do until then.

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Arizona Fall League is not an instructional league for low-level players. It is a league where teams typically send 6 top prospects apiece. Most players are successful double or triple A guys.
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:36 PM
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Anyone who has played Baseball with loved doing so, always wants more.

To have an opportunity to compete at the highest level, warranted or not, is a dream anyone who is honest with themselves would love to experience in real life.

I have not played in more than 15 years, and, even though the last few games proved without a doubt that I could no longer be competitive, it crushed me to have that connection to my past come to an end.

There remains an urge in me, to jump (nope, can't even do that) onto the field at whatever game (at whatever talent level) I attend and have that opportunity one last time.


And this is from someone who had as definite closure to that part of my life as there could be.

The desire, however, remains...and I do not criticize ANYONE for pursuing the same.

Tim Tebow deserves the opportunity- in doing so with his normal enthusiasm and conviction, he does nothing but honor the game and its connection to all of us who once had it as a very important part of our physical existence.

I wish him all the best!
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Anyone who has played Baseball with loved doing so, always wants more.

To have an opportunity to compete at the highest level, warranted or not, is a dream anyone who is honest with themselves would love to experience in real life.

I have not played in more than 15 years, and, even though the last few games proved without a doubt that I could no longer be competitive, it crushed me to have that connection to my past come to an end.

There remains an urge in me, to jump (nope, can't even do that) onto the field at whatever game (at whatever talent level) I attend and have that opportunity one last time.


And this is from someone who had as definite closure to that part of my life as there could be.

The desire, however, remains...and I do not criticize ANYONE for pursuing the same.

Tim Tebow deserves the opportunity- in doing so with his normal enthusiasm and conviction, he does nothing but honor the game and its connection to all of us who once had it as a very important part of our physical existence.

I wish him all the best!
While I can appreciate this sentiment, it is precisely the reason this whole thing would bug me if it was my team that was doing this. Tebow is chasing that elusive dream, giving it one last shot as expressed in your post. But by doing that he is negatively impacting someone who has a much more reasonable chance of making it who has the same passion.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:13 AM
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He is not even chasing a dream though. His dream was to play in the NFL. He stopped playing baseball as a junior in high school. I think that is another thing that distances his experience from Michael Jordan's. Jordan didn't opt for baseball because he failed as an NBA player and he didn't need baseball to prolong what he thought would be a professional sports career.

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Old 03-10-2017, 10:35 AM
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How much of the criticism leveled at Tim Tebow is because he is considered TOO nice a guy?

Well, I think we could use more folks like him in positions that, justifiable or not, are looked on as roll-models by our children.

Haters, exit stage left please.
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He is not even chasing a dream though. His dream was to play in the NFL. He stopped playing baseball as a junior in high school. I think that is another thing that distances his experience from Michael Jordan's. Jordan didn't opt for baseball because he failed as an NBA player and he didn't need baseball to prolong what he thought would be a professional sports career.
You think he failed at football? The guy beat the Steelers in the playoffs. He was forced out of football because of the media.

What point are you trying to make? If you don't succeed at one thing, accept defeat and quit altogether?

You're a Tebow-hater. Plain and simple. My apologies for posting here though, since this thread is a safe space, meant strictly for people who dislike Tebow.
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You think he failed at football? The guy beat the Steelers in the playoffs. He was forced out of football because of the media.
LOL, yeah 'cause Belichek is such a slave to what the media thinks he should do.

For that matter if he could've helped ANY team they would've signed him. Michael Vick got a second chance after doing heinous things, but somehow you think Tebow was blackballed for being too nice?

If anything the media has prolonged his career AND created this baseball opportunity for him. Without the media hoopla, he wouldn't sell jerseys and therefore would've been useless (more useless) to the Mets. Think of all the QB failures in league history. Did ANY of them get the opportunities this guy has? Did any of them get the coverage he did? Troy Smith and Chris Weinke would have killed to have Tim Tebow's media "problems"

I have no personal feelings about Tebow one way or the other since I don't know him personally. He certainly seems to lead an exemplary life in a time when lots of other athletes leave quite a bit to be desired in their personal conduct. But he was not a viable NFL QB plain and simple.
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I am in agreement. He is in the position he's in because there is a focus on him. He has not lost out on anything, in my opinion, because of the media. I have no issue with him as a person and he definitely does a lot of good for people. I wouldn't call myself a Tebow hater, just a realist.

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As a Christian myself I fail to see how Tebow's faith has anything to do with his career ending. If anything it seems to have helped garner more fans than maybe his on-field play has deserved him. Everyone in my Church seemed to LOVE Tebow so he certainly wasn't being harmed by this media coverage.

Also I just have to look at Kurt Warner and see that the NFL doesn't blackball you for faith or having a "nice" personality.
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You think he failed at football? The guy beat the Steelers in the playoffs. He was forced out of football because of the media.

What point are you trying to make? If you don't succeed at one thing, accept defeat and quit altogether?

You're a Tebow-hater. Plain and simple. My apologies for posting here though, since this thread is a safe space, meant strictly for people who dislike Tebow.
Actually he was forced out of football due to lack of passing accuracy and arm strength, along with an unwillingness to entertain the idea of playing another position besides QB (i.e. FB)
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