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This is inexcusable:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Topps-B...EAAOSwSlBYsHqP And people wonder why SGC brings so much less $$$. You can't operate like that. |
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http://www.sgccard.com/GradingScale.aspx I have seen a lot funny things from all the top 3 graders since joining, but I will say SGC, is by far, the most consistent when it comes to grading, bar none. And no, I have never sent any cards in to anyone.
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If we pretend the card is otherwise flawless and centering is the only issue, what grade should it get? More than 3 points off seems unfair. And I prefer it being factored in to the grade rather than calling it, say, an 8 (OC). But I may be in the minority there. I use (and buy) SGC exclusively because I love the look of the holder but rarely buy high grade cards and have no plans to resell any cards any time soon. In my small experience, I agree that PSA does seem to do better in terms of resale all things being equal. But I started with them when they were in NJ and despite some disappointment on my end with the some grades given, I never disagreed with an SGC ruling either. Maybe I'm foolish but I trust that they're better at it than I am - and made me better at appraising cards as a result. Nothing better than a card that grades BETTER than advertised when you bought it. There are also subtle variations a to what each company lets slide, too. Back damage flies better at PSA, from what I've seen in low grade cards. Point being, there seems to be a bit of a science to it - identifying which place will grade your card based on its flaws. And now someone much more experienced will hopefully elaborate better than me. Last edited by Timbegs; 03-18-2017 at 01:41 PM. Reason: More than three points off |
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To be honest I find psa's centering thoughts all over the map just as often. When I see a 10 on my screen that looks 60/40 it kills me.
I admit to being someone who will walk by a off centered 9 to grab a centered 5. It is my OCD in action. ![]() I don't see this as an SGC thing only, the others do much of the same. I think those unfamiliar with companies that don't use qualifiers just think it's something. If in hand this is a pristine card and I sent it to psa with no qualifications allowed it could just as easily be a psa 7 without an O/C. Buy the card not the holder.
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The main difference is that PSA defines what their centering requirements are for a grade, while SGC does not. So yes, a 60/40 card could still be a 10 if every other characteristic is flawless, according to their definition. Normally they will give it a 9.
Would the OP gripe if it was a 9(OC) rather than the 7, but this would probably get a 6 from PSA if no qualifiers was selected. BGS is the toughest of all three on centering, although this got a BGS 7.5 centering subgrade: ![]() 1992 Topps - Stadium of Stars #BOCO - Bob Costas [BGS*8] Courtesy of COMC.com
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Their escape clause seems to be "Other factors that may or may not contribute to the final assigned grade might not be specifically noted in these descriptions." That said, the L/R seems to be within their guidelines but T/B is definitely not. Looks like about 85/15. Their 84 NRMT 7 requires 70/30 or better so not really even close. Despite the questionable centering I think it's a lot closer to a 7 than this, where the centering is about the only thing that might be right for the grade! ![]()
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Thanks for the correction; didn't realize they posted that.
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And I would have expected a 6(MK) if I sent in that 1952 card, or even a 5(MK).
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Agreed, I can't believe there is no qualifier
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