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Old 03-18-2017, 02:45 PM
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OK, everybody has different opinions so I'll throw mine in. In general, for vintage I prefer SGC, as I purchase a lot of 6s to 7's, and SGC cards graded at those grades consistently, in my opinion on the cards I look at, are nicer cards than similarly graded PSA versions.

Secondly, I enlarged the pic of the Alcindor, took out my ruler and checked ratio left to right and it is 70/30 with the left side of course being the '30' side.
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Old 03-18-2017, 03:08 PM
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OK, everybody has different opinions so I'll throw mine in. In general, for vintage I prefer SGC, as I purchase a lot of 6s to 7's, and SGC cards graded at those grades consistently, in my opinion on the cards I look at, are nicer cards than similarly graded PSA versions.

Secondly, I enlarged the pic of the Alcindor, took out my ruler and checked ratio left to right and it is 70/30 with the left side of course being the '30' side.
Left to right centering isn't great, but you really need to look at the top to bottom centering.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:54 PM
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Does the old SGC holder come into equation for anyone ? Idk maybe they were a little easier on centering back in the day.
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Old 03-18-2017, 06:00 PM
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Card is clearly either o/c or m/c on two sides and certainly not a "7." This example illustrates why their grading standards are a joke.
It could be worse, they could call a card with paper loss a 5...............
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Does the old SGC holder come into equation for anyone ? Idk maybe they were a little easier on centering back in the day.
My thoughts exactly. Just like the PSA 7 shown. That is an older graded card and no way, imo, does that receive a 7 today.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:09 PM
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My thoughts exactly. Just like the PSA 7 shown. That is an older graded card and no way, imo, does that receive a 7 today.
If you are referring to the 52 PSA 7 Barney, that was probably graded within the past month. The current sequence is at about "270". If I sent that 52 Barney in, the expectation without qualifiers would be a 4.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:10 PM
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If you are referring to the 52 PSA 7 Barney, that was probably graded within the past month. The current sequence is at about "270". If I sent that 52 Barney in, the expectation without qualifiers would be a 4.
In all honesty, I didn't see the hologram and thought that was an older graded card.
Are you sure it just wasn't a reholder? If not, I can't believe that card received a 7 recently, especially with those corners and ink stain.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:56 PM
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Personal opinion here, but I actually find it kind of ridiculous that centering is even a factor in grading.

Grading should be about the handling/care of the card over the years, not whether you got lucky enough to get one that was cut well by the manufacturer...


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SGC is fine.
Card is too off center for your taste, so don't buy it.

PSA is fine.
They make mistakes too.

BGS is fine.
see above
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