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Old 03-18-2017, 02:00 PM
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Default SGC question...

I have no problem with the card getting this grade. However, this was my first time going through the mail and I haven't had one graded since they left NJ. I did not get any explanation of why it was stabbed 'A' like I have in the past.

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Is this new - no explanation of why it's an A?

Is calling to ask being a jerk and a hassle or is it ok to call? I have had a small number graded over the years.

Still, no matter what, it looks great in their holder and I love the card and I am happy it's home and authentic.
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:21 PM
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I would call
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:23 PM
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Yeah, my guess would be trimmed. But you should ask SGC.
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Old 03-18-2017, 06:19 PM
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I have no problem with the card getting this grade. However, this was my first time going through the mail and I haven't had one graded since they left NJ. I did not get any explanation of why it was stabbed 'A' like I have in the past.

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Is this new - no explanation of why it's an A?

Is calling to ask being a jerk and a hassle or is it ok to call? I have had a small number graded over the years.

Still, no matter what, it looks great in their holder and I love the card and I am happy it's home and authentic.
How is calling being a jerk? You paid for the submission/slab so I would think they at least owe you an answer.
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Old 03-18-2017, 06:58 PM
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How is calling being a jerk? You paid for the submission/slab so I would think they at least owe you an answer.
I don't know - that's why I asked. I ha only ever dealt with them in person prior to this mailed submission and I am not ever going to be able to give them a ton of business.

By the way, does the flaw stand out to others?

I didn't think trimmed as it seems to measure correctly.l but another member thought it looked short...
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:14 PM
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I don't know - that's why I asked. I had only ever dealt with them in person prior to this mailed submission and I am not ever going to be able to give them a ton of business.

By the way, does the flaw stand out to others?

I didn't think trimmed as it seems to measure correctly.l but another member thought it looked short...
Like I mentioned, you chose them, paid them, so it's the least they can do, imo.

Sorry, I can't offer any opinions on your card. If not trimmed, it could have been recolored, or something else. Definitely call and inquire and please let us know what they tell you, even if they tell you nothing. (which I highly doubt)
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:30 PM
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I will call Monday and report back.

While it is not their fault for moving, drop off and pick up was much better for my purposes - not to mention no shipping.
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Was it thinner than normal cards due to being pressed inside a screwdown brick for 20 years? That would be another possibility: altered stock.
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Was it thinner than normal cards due to being pressed inside a screwdown brick for 20 years? That would be another possibility: altered stock.
Outside of visible damage (creases, scuffs, scratches, dings, soft corners) I have a hard time identifying the issues cards face if they're done well.

My guess was the crease had some color added to dull it. Pressed and trimmed are also possible. I'll know tomorrow. Doesn't bother me too much. Whatever work was done was pretty goo and I am a buy the card not the holder type on the mid to low end. Resale value rarely factors in. It's a nice looking and that I would have thought a 3 or 4 at best. And now it matches my set. 😃
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First and foremost, thanks to those who weighed in - I truly appreciate it...

I just ended a very pleasant conversation with Mitch at SGC. The guy couldn't have been nicer and was able to provide me with a very descriptive answer as to why it received an 'A' designation. Here goes, in paraphrase form:

In the upper left of the card is a crease - it's there, it's faint and noticeable and there's also some light scratching in the area (again, faint but noticeable) but the card still looks very attractive. In that area, right below the NY on the cap, someone added color - most likely to cover the worst point of the crease and improve eye appeal. The color match was 'excellent' but the presence of the coloring agent gives it away and therefore it was picked up under close examination 'pretty easily'. Outside of that, it would have probably fallen into the VG-VG+ (3-3.5) range, though true grading stops once an alteration is found.


As for my reaction, I'm cool with it. I love the card and since I now know what's up with it I'm just happy that it is not trimmed. I can live with a dot of color added. That's also why I stay in the lower end of the grading system.

Thanks again
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