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Old 03-20-2017, 05:49 PM
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Default E92 Miscut fronts and sheet layouts

I've been meaning to post this for a couple days. I'm hoping this will be a start to reconstructing the sheet layouts. I've put together a list below of the e92 front miscuts that I am aware of.

Left player/Right player/Back
Collins/Dougherty/black candy
Dougherty/Shean/black candy
Chase/Bescher/black candy
Red background (most likely Crawford)/Siegle/cocoa
Hartsel/Crawford/cocoa
Knabe/Collins/cocoa
Miller batting/Miller batting/cocoa (Vertical miscut)

Based on these cards, we have 2 starts of sheet layouts
- Black Candy = Collins/Dougherty/Shean
- Cocoa = Hartsel/Crawford/Siegle

A couple other observations
- I have never seen a Nadja or Dockman with a miscut front. I have seen a nadja with a miscut back
- Miscut backs are not that uncommon, particularly for cocoa
- Certain players with certain backs seem to be short-printed or possibly no prints, but does not indicate the same player is short-printed across all backs. To me this suggests possibly different sheet layouts for different backs.

I'm sure there are others miscut fronts, so what other combination have you seen or what other observations have you made.
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:48 AM
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I will dig around some later and see what I can come up with to try to help. I know I have had some miscuts in the past but never tried to put a sheet together.
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I don't recall seeing much in the way of miscut front E92 cards in the past. It always seems like it is the backs that share some design from neighboring cards.

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Old 03-23-2017, 04:24 PM
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While searching I found a few more miscuts...Anyone have any others?

Chase/Bescher/black candy
Wagner (throwing)/???/black candy (unique in the fact that the card is miscut in the opposite direction - just a sliver of the card to the right)
???/Kleinow/black candy

Here's Kleinow, I'm thinking the other card is either Hartsel, Bender (stripped), Doyle (throwing), or Mathewson. Thoughts?





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W554 - Anyone with any red backstamp, Fonseca, Klein, Rommel
E/T Young Backrun - Need E90-1, E92 black Crofts Candy, E92 Dockman, E101, E105, T216 (all versions)
E92 Red Crofts - Anyone except Bemis, Bescher, Crawford, Donovan, and Miller (fielding)
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Here's a couple DJ.......Jerry
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:51 PM
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Jerry, on the Bender, it looks to me like the other card is the shade of red on the Tinker, is that accurate or is it a brighter red like Casey/Zimmerman?

Also, could you send me an email, I had a couple questions for you a couple weeks ago but the email didn't go through.

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W554 - Anyone with any red backstamp, Fonseca, Klein, Rommel
E/T Young Backrun - Need E90-1, E92 black Crofts Candy, E92 Dockman, E101, E105, T216 (all versions)
E92 Red Crofts - Anyone except Bemis, Bescher, Crawford, Donovan, and Miller (fielding)
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email sent DJ.......Jerry
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Default Crofts miscut

Here is mine, lower right, Bescher
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DJ, it appears to be lighter to me than that Crawford I showed if that helps....forgot to include that in my email......Jerry
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