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Old 06-22-2018, 02:27 PM
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The Ryan rookie is very common. Reggie's Rookie is also fairly easy.
Rose is harder to find and it is a high number, but '63 highs are not nearly as rare as other years. The Grant Jackson rookie is kind of an artificial market. Its a 66 high, which makes it hard, but I don't think its anymore rare than Choo-Choo Coleman.
Seaver's rookie is pretty difficult to find and you can't really find a beat up version of it for anywhere less than $200. It may be the hardest to find. The funny thing is, you can find a poor conditioned one selling for $200 and you can find an ExMt version selling for $550. There pretty much isn't as wide of a price range on it, due to the fact that the lower conditioned ones are more expensive.

Some of the 1962 High number rookies like Joe Pepitone and Uecker are pretty difficult to find and much harder to find in really nice condition.
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Old 06-22-2018, 05:21 PM
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The Seaver is a beast to find without a tilt. Just not many out there. I suspect one half sheet had all the tilted ones on it and the more centered/straight ones appeared on the other half sheet.
Not much tilt here, though I was thinking about upgrading it but have not found the right 7, it's tough.
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Old 06-29-2018, 03:44 PM
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I think I am going to grab the Uecker RC with the 15% off eBay - I have most of the cards that people have mentioned minus the Seaver (which is currently out of my price range).

It's a VGEX version - that's my wheelhouse and budgetary constraints!
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:41 PM
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Lately, it's card #496 Dalkowski rookie card w/ 3 other guys. So my question to my friends out there is this: I know the 6th series of 1963 is the tougher of the 2 high numbers and selected cards, 469 hook, 484 long for 2 are flagged as SP. But why this card? Not even in any publications as tough. A NM version right now on ebay going for much more than Clemente. Is this a case of the 64 flood or the 66 grant Jackson hoarding?
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:56 PM
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Lately, it's card #496 Dalkowski rookie card w/ 3 other guys. So my question to my friends out there is this: I know the 6th series of 1963 is the tougher of the 2 high numbers and selected cards, 469 hook, 484 long for 2 are flagged as SP. But why this card? Not even in any publications as tough. A NM version right now on ebay going for much more than Clemente. Is this a case of the 64 flood or the 66 grant Jackson hoarding?
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I got that and McNally from a member here. Not perfect cards but a very fair price.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...errerid=621627

They were 2 of the last 5-10 cards I got including Clemente and Rose
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:42 PM
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I got that and McNally from a member here. Not perfect cards but a very fair price.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...errerid=621627

They were 2 of the last 5-10 cards I got including Clemente and Rose
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Back to the OP's question - there's quite a few random '60s rookies that can be tough to locate and consistently realize higher prices than one would expect (off the top of my head - '62 RC Parades, '63 Dalkowski, '66 Cards RCS, '66 G Jackson, '67 Sutherland, '67 Shellenback). But to me, the Seaver and Rose are definitely the toughest. 1 and 1(a) but if I had to rank them I'd say Seaver was the toughest for me to find in a condition I was happy with, then Rose...although the Rose does sell for more than the Seaver.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:19 PM
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Toughest Topps rookie card of the '60's, period? Aside from the regular issues, the 1969 Topps Super printer's proof Reggie Jackson. I have one, obtained a number of years ago from Steve Verkman, and have only seen one other come up since, either in an REA or Heritage auction about 4-6 years ago (PSA, I believe, subsequently stopped grading printer's proofs).

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Hardest 1960s rookies (stretching the boundaries a little):

1967 Cincinnati Reds Team Issue PC - Johnny Bench:


1963 Houston Colt 45s Team Issue - Joe Morgan:


1963-64 UNC-Dominican "Album" card - Phil Niekro:


1965 Baltimore Orioles Team Issue PC - Jim Palmer:


1963 Cincinnati Reds Team Issue PC - Pete Rose:


1969 Topps Test Issue - Bowie Kuhn:


For those that I don't own, I'd love to acquire a 1966 Pro's Pizza of Fergie Jenkins. I saw one years ago at auction and haven't seen another since. I'd also love a 1963 San Diego Team Issue (8"x10") of Tony Perez. Hint, hint!
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:33 AM
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I got that and McNally from a member here. Not perfect cards but a very fair price.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...errerid=621627

They were 2 of the last 5-10 cards I got including Clemente and Rose
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That's why back in the day at Beckett. we preferred looking at uncut sheets to help with the SP and DP notations. I have told the story on a few occasions about the 1961 5th series in which our suppositions about the SP's (Maz, Skowron, etc) were proved when I saw an uncut sheet at a Nassau Coliseum show in 1993.

I suspect the Dalkowski is a SP, I remember buying one from a board member here and it sold when graded at the very next show after getting it back from the grading company.

Tresh is also well known for being tough in that series as well as Lou Brock. I suspect there is one group of 11 cards which are SP's in the 6th series.

And if you really want a tougher RC which is kind of, sort of at least related to the standard Topps cards there are

1968 Venezuelan Nolan Ryan

1965 O-Pee-Chee Murakami

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That's why back in the day at Beckett. we preferred looking at uncut sheets to help with the SP and DP notations. I have told the story on a few occasions about the 1961 5th series in which our suppositions about the SP's (Maz, Skowron, etc) were proved when I saw an uncut sheet at a Nassau Coliseum show in 1993.

I suspect the Dalkowski is a SP, I remember buying one from a board member here and it sold when graded at the very next show after getting it back from the grading company.

Tresh is also well known for being tough in that series as well as Lou Brock. I suspect there is one group of 11 cards which are SP's in the 6th series.

And if you really want a tougher RC which is kind of, sort of at least related to the standard Topps cards there are

1968 Venezuelan Nolan Ryan

1965 O-Pee-Chee Murakami

Rich
The '63 Bill Freeman RC is kind of tough also from that series.
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