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Old 07-24-2015, 01:51 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on the thread guys. Rob, nice find. The DS boxes I have seen look like the regular 1991 Topps boxes. Are your boxes wrapped in cello? I have not seen DS boxes wrapped in cello - other than BBCE certified boxes (see below). DS boxes will look exactly the same as regular issues 1991 Topps boxes - even the 4 yellow bordered 1991 Topps cards printed on the bottom of the boxes do not have a DS logo on them.

One of the ways you can tell a DS pack is to use a strong blacklight and shine it on the back of the pack. The red trim on the reverse of DS cards should glow or fluoresce; if it doesn't it is likely not a DS pack. However, if every pack in the box glows or fluoresces, there is a high probability it is a DS box. Here is a pic of "sealed" Desert Shield boxes by BBCE (below).

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Thanks for weighing in.

So I opened one of the unsealed boxes last night and it was a dud...just plain ol' '91 Topps & only 1 Chipper.

The sealed boxes are wrapped with the (here is the part where I start to sound like a moron) crinkly type of plastic...not the type of plastic that stretches when pulled...does that make sense? I saw (i assume it was your) post about the blacklight when I did a quick google at the estate sale yesterday...I may need to see if I still have my blacklight stuffed in a closet somewhere and check 'em tonight.

I went back to the same this AM...it looked like nobody had gone through the box since me. Found 42 more worth grabbing @ 25% off today, he took 'em all the way down to $3 each since I bought so much yesterday...nothing crazy...my biggest miss was a '63 ROokie Stars w/ Gaylord Perry & another '61 Leaders w/ Koufax, mid stars like Kubek, Oliva, Kaat, things like that...a couple of Variant Checklists that have a little premium on them...two more sealed '91 Topps boxes appeared as well, so I grabbed them (now for $4 each), as well as half a dozen or so 90 UD Hi # Boxes just to rip hoping to find Aaron auto (fat chance, but for $3 a box, why not?!)

I'll probably head back over there in the afternoon tomorrow to see what kind of deal they'll make on the scraps since they are mid-high grade...bulk of what is left is '63 commons, handful of adjoining years.

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Old 07-24-2015, 02:01 PM
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Congrats Rob, great stuff! Where was the sale located?
Kansas City in a tiny little half of a duplex in an area of town close to the part of town that I don't go to at night.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:56 PM
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Rob,

Well it seems like you got some great cards regardless.....thanks for posting. Curious to see what your final tally is - after your third trip back tomorrow.

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Old 07-24-2015, 05:13 PM
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Kansas City in a tiny little half of a duplex in an area of town close to the part of town that I don't go to at night.
Lol, When I worked down there laying brick in the mid 90's that was most of Raytown. The job site had armed guards 24/7 and a friend got robbed at gun point leaving work.
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Rest of Day One Haul

Got these balls on day 1





Maybe '74 on the Cardinals ball? Still cool for $25, even though it is stamped obv















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Old 07-24-2015, 06:02 PM
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Day #2

Can't pass up a non tattered <$10 Goudey (25% off today remember)...not sure how I missed the DS Mack on day 1



$3 each below















Can't believe I missed the Gaylord rookie on day 1...it has some color spotting on it though



These were in a snap case with 50 or so other '91 UD for $1.50...all KC guys in some way

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Nice haul. When I wholesale buy at a show from a table I price my purchase offers at $5-$10 per superstar, $1-$3 per star, and nothing for the commons, so judging from the # of Mantle, Koufax, Musial, Clemente, etc. and the condition shown you did really well. Essentially you made a wholesale buy and didn't have to eat the commons. The real question is how much will you keep? My weakness as a dealer is that I cant bring myself to sell the good stuff.
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Nice haul. When I wholesale buy at a show from a table I price my purchase offers at $5-$10 per superstar, $1-$3 per star, and nothing for the commons, so judging from the # of Mantle, Koufax, Musial, Clemente, etc. and the condition shown you did really well. Essentially you made a wholesale buy and didn't have to eat the commons. The real question is how much will you keep? My weakness as a dealer is that I cant bring myself to sell the good stuff.
I'm a total HOARDER! I may sell some of the dupes...may try to make some trades to complete my set needs (55, 58 & 59 for now), and I think I just started a '63 set since I grabbed a chunk of the stars on the cheap
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welcome and SCORE!

there is no discrepancies between desert shield boxes and regular topps boxes, there is only one way to find out...open and rip a pack.

a good indication though might be if the house had any military mementos/memorabilia as well.

however, even steve from bbce has to pick out a random pack out of a box that is submitted as a "desert shield" box to find out. I believe he reseals this pack, in the same exact fashion as it was opened and is the only instance of this ever happening of such a reseal.

I do not know this from personal knowledge, but the guy that told me this is extremely reliable on unopened and I would not regurgitate this if I didn't think it was legit. but call bbce, in a week or so (as it's the national) and ask....it would solve your mystery really quickly.

as for feeling guilty, do not. you paid the price that was asked. it's not your position to price someones' items. the guilty feeling is because you stumbled upon one hellavu find and congrats!

and I will take that 63 berra please.

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welcome and SCORE!

there is no discrepancies between desert shield boxes and regular topps boxes, there is only one way to find out...open and rip a pack.

a good indication though might be if the house had any military mementos/memorabilia as well.

however, even steve from bbce has to pick out a random pack out of a box that is submitted as a "desert shield" box to find out. I believe he reseals this pack, in the same exact fashion as it was opened and is the only instance of this ever happening of such a reseal.

I do not know this from personal knowledge, but the guy that told me this is extremely reliable on unopened and I would not regurgitate this if I didn't think it was legit. but call bbce, in a week or so (as it's the national) and ask....it would solve your mystery really quickly.

as for feeling guilty, do not. you paid the price that was asked. it's not your position to price someones' items. the guilty feeling is because you stumbled upon one hellavu find and congrats!

and I will take that 63 berra please.
Yep, a guy on Blowout told me about Steve and I called him yesterday. Very nice guy that said, well, basically the same thing you said...just cross your fingers & rip! Nothing discernible between regular & Shield versions (I didn't ask him about, and haven't tried the blacklight trick Zach mentioned prior)

I've opened the two boxes that weren't sealed, both were just plain ol' '91 Topps. There was a LOT of military regalia in the house, and obviously there were some Desert Shield singles around too...and about 50 boxes of those Desert Storm cards, so there were a lot of things from that era that gave/give me some hope.
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