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Old 01-02-2019, 01:46 PM
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Default Surprisingly long history of Traded cards

I had a lot of fun writing this article. I'm wondering if the N54 members here have any other sets/cards to nominate for inclusion.

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Haven't read it yet, but just discovered your site. Wow...can tell you I will be spending a lot of time there.
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Very good read. Well done.
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I appreciate it. And LMK if you know other sets I should add.

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Good stuff!!!!
Not only Nolan Ryan, as you mentioned, but I have always been crushed that Topps didn't put a 'Willie Mays Traded to my Mets' high number card in the '72 set. What an opportunity lost.
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You are so right about Mays! I'm going to add that one to the section as another one that might have been.

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Fun read, thanks for posting it.
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Default Great article!

I really enjoyed your article and can see you had fun writing this! There's something about traded cards that have always attracted my attention as well. I think its some simple pleasure that we derive as kids playing games like "spot the difference" and things like that. Here are a few more for your consideration.

-1933 Eclipse Import Glenn Myatt - pictured with the Athletics and then with a lazy transfer to the Indians (lets just throw "Cleveland" on his uniform and call it a day)

-1947-66 Exhibits Herb Score - pictured as an Indian, and then with cap emblem removed, no doubt to commemorate his move to Chicago

-1956 Big League Star Statues Larry Doby - pictured as an Indian on both, but the team has switched from Cleveland to Chicago. At least this one contains some extra text regarding the trade.

Also, with regard to your Orestes Minoso example, I have always considered both cards to depict him with the White Sox, with the "C" cap just being an alternate/different year cap for the team.
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I really enjoyed your article and can see you had fun writing this! There's something about traded cards that have always attracted my attention as well. I think its some simple pleasure that we derive as kids playing games like "spot the difference" and things like that. Here are a few more for your consideration.
Would it be alright with you if I added your cards? I probably won't use Score since I used Minoso from same issue but the others are totally new to me.
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Awesome article and website Jason! Well done!
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Wow Jason...just looked at your site while on lunch break at work.... enjoyed reading through it so much I went 30 minutes over... Gonna mark it so I can enjoy the rest at home.

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Wow Jason...just looked at your site while on lunch break at work.... enjoyed reading through it so much I went 30 minutes over... Gonna mark it so I can enjoy the rest at home.



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Great article, and MUCH more in depth that I anticipated!

Do you consider the 1959 Cards that have variations w/ and w/o traded (or Optioned) statements traded cards?



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Great article, and MUCH more in depth that I anticipated!



Do you consider the 1959 Cards that have variations w/ and w/o traded (or Optioned) statements traded cards?







Wow, I never knew about this. Do you know if this was limited to 1959?

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59s are the only ones I recall...there are only a handful

316 - Ralph Lumenti (Optioned statement)
321 - Bob Giallombardo (Optioned Statement)
322 - Harry Hanebrink (Trade Statement)
336 - Billy Loes (Trade Statement)
362 - Dolan Nichols (Optioned Statement)
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1957 Topps 303/407 74.4%
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I will definitely add this! Kinda reminds me of when I first got this card from a pack...


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The traded/optioned stuff on the back of cards happened in 1966 and 1967, too.
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The traded/optioned stuff on the back of cards happened in 1966 and 1967, too.
I'll take it if you know a card offhand. If not I can enjoy the search.

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This is a copy and paste of 1966 and 1967 cards from my variations spreadsheet. In case the tabs get all wacky, it lists the 2 different versions of each:

1966 62 Ranew sold statement no sold statement
1966 91 Uecker "Bob was traded to Phillies, October 27, 1965." no trade statement
1966 103 Groat trade statement no trade statement
1966 104 Johnson trade statement no trade statement

1967 26 Priddy trade statement no trade statement
1967 86 McCormick trade statement no trade statement
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This is a copy and paste of 1966 and 1967 cards from my variations spreadsheet. In case the tabs get all wacky, it lists the 2 different versions of each:



196662Ranewsold statementno sold statement

196691Uecker"Bob was traded to Phillies, October 27, 1965."no trade statement

1966103Groattrade statementno trade statement

1966104Johnsontrade statementno trade statement



196726Priddytrade statementno trade statement

196786McCormicktrade statementno trade statement
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Guys, thanks to the trail you put me on I also found the "traded line" style variations actually pre-date Topps and were part of the 1955 Bowman set! Just one player, but here it is...

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And 1954 Bowman Vic Raschi and Dave Philley
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And holy smokes, Topps takes it all the way back to 1951!

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BTW, the article has been revised significantly thanks to all these additions. Link re-posted here in case you're interested in the latest...

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Here's some more:

1961 Post Cereal

30. Gene Freese Box- WhiteSox, Company Card - Reds * Traded from Chicago

41. Frank Bolling Box - Tigers, Company Card - Braves * Traded from Detroit

51. Willie Tasby Box - Red Sox, Company Card Red Sox * Sold to Washington

55. Frank Sullivan Box - Red Sox, Company Card Phillies * Traded from Boston

57. Harvey Kueen Box - Indians, Company Card Giants * Traded from Cleveland

60. Ken Aspromonte Box - Indians, Company Card Indians * Sold to Angels

89. Ken Hamlin Box - A's, Company Card A's * Sold to Angels

109. Bill Bruton Box - Braves, Company Card Tigers * Traded from Milwaukee

124. Gene Conley Box - Phillies, Company Card Red Sox * Traded from Philadelphia

142. John Antonelli Box - Giants, Company Card Indians * Traded from SF

146. Willie Kirkland Box - Giants, Company Card Indians * Traded from SF
(Kirkland's Bio also changed on company card)

153. Andre Rodgers - Box and Company Giants *Trade Line to Milwaukee on Company Card

190. Billy Martin - Box and Company Reds * Sold to Milwaukee on Company Card.

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72. Green - Senators *Traded to Indians
73. Donovan - Senators *Traded to Indians
120. Bell - Reds *Drafted by Mets
138. Jones - Giants *Drafted by Houston
144. Amalfitano - Giants *Drafted by Houston
157. Spangler - Braves *Drafted by Houston
181. Smith - Pirates *Drafted by Houston
182. Bouchee - Cubs *Drafted by Mets
183. Zimmer - Cubs *Drafted by Mets
196. Smith - Phillies *Drafted by Mets
198. Roberts - Phillies *Sold to Yankees

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167. McDaniel - Cardinals *Traded to Cubs
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Here's some more:



1961 Post Cereal



30. Gene Freese Box- WhiteSox, Company Card - Reds * Traded from Chicago



41. Frank Bolling Box - Tigers, Company Card - Braves * Traded from Detroit



51. Willie Tasby Box - Red Sox, Company Card Red Sox * Sold to Washington



55. Frank Sullivan Box - Red Sox, Company Card Phillies * Traded from Boston



57. Harvey Kueen Box - Indians, Company Card Giants * Traded from Cleveland



60. Ken Aspromonte Box - Indians, Company Card Indians * Sold to Angels



89. Ken Hamlin Box - A's, Company Card A's * Sold to Angels



109. Bill Bruton Box - Braves, Company Card Tigers * Traded from Milwaukee



124. Gene Conley Box - Phillies, Company Card Red Sox * Traded from Philadelphia



142. John Antonelli Box - Giants, Company Card Indians * Traded from SF



146. Willie Kirkland Box - Giants, Company Card Indians * Traded from SF

(Kirkland's Bio also changed on company card)



153. Andre Rodgers - Box and Company Giants *Trade Line to Milwaukee on Company Card



190. Billy Martin - Box and Company Reds * Sold to Milwaukee on Company Card.



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72. Green - Senators *Traded to Indians

73. Donovan - Senators *Traded to Indians

120. Bell - Reds *Drafted by Mets

138. Jones - Giants *Drafted by Houston

144. Amalfitano - Giants *Drafted by Houston

157. Spangler - Braves *Drafted by Houston

181. Smith - Pirates *Drafted by Houston

182. Bouchee - Cubs *Drafted by Mets

183. Zimmer - Cubs *Drafted by Mets

196. Smith - Phillies *Drafted by Mets

198. Roberts - Phillies *Sold to Yankees



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167. McDaniel - Cardinals *Traded to Cubs
Man, I had no idea there would be so many of these! Thanks. I will make the adds.

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If you have to add all of the suggestions so far, the length of your story is going to make "War and Peace" look like only a pamphlet.
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T206 has Lundgren with both Chicago and Kansas City.

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Thanks. I'm generally just showing one example per set and I already had Dahlen for T206. I'm guessing from your sig line that those Lundgrens are your actual cards...DAMN!! That Chicago one is gorgeous!
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Thanks for recognizing and giving props to my trivia question in your article.
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You have a knack for questions that guys can't Google or go find at Baseball Reference. Keep them coming!
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