OCD Postal worker with vintage card jones sentenced

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Posted By: Anthony S.

well, suspended sentenced

http://tinyurl.com/5k8hvt

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Posted By: Mark T

"obsessive compulsive behavior surrounding baseball cards"

Can't we all to some point admit to that quote...still, he should have been given some jail time.

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Posted By: jdrum

he was addicted to baseball cards, why did he sell it? Unless there's more to the story here, sounds more like a thief to me.

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Posted By: Matt

He sold the card for double what the first guy did...

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Posted By: Anthony S.

He did indeed. Maybe he offered free postage.

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Posted By: D. Bergin

No, he sold it to a jeweler who then sold it on ebay. Who knows what the jeweler paid for it.

I think he might be addicted, but certainly not to baseball cards.

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Posted By: Matt

Anthony - maybe he had a "private bidder"

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Posted By: Bruce Dorskind

We think that this criminal should have been put away for a minimum
of 25 years.

Anyone who steals must be severely punished.

Anyone who works for a trusted institution like the Post
Office and steals should be even more severely punished.

The problem with this country is not with the 2 million
people in jail, rather its with the 5 million more who belong
there.

Make an example of this poor pathetic postal worker
and send him away for hard time.


Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

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Posted By: richie

What else did this guy steal before he got caught. he takes card to a jewler HMM. Seems as if someone else is out of jewerly that was sent through the mail that he sold to his contact. Minimum should be 10 years. imo

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Posted By: barrysloate

Bruce- you should get a job deciding the length of criminals' punishments. We could even bypass the trial phase and just send all the reprobates to you.

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Posted By: Jim VB

Bruce,

I'm disappointed in you. I was sure you would be asking for the death penalty!

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Posted By: Mark Evans

I spent 20 years with the Department of Justice, including a stint as a prosecutor. Over those years, and a subsequent career in support of the federal judiciary, I met a boatload of people involved in the criminal justice system. I can honestly say I never met one who believed "a minimum of 25 years" would be an appropriate sentence for the theft of a baseball card. Mark

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Bruce, 25 years for stealing a baseball card?  WHOA!

I think I got 3 licks (paddle) in grammar school for a similar infraction.

martyOgelvie

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Posted By: Robert Klevens

25 years is tough for a baseball card but he has a point that the postal workers should be held to a higher standard. We have to buy insurance on almost every package because we can't trust them to deliver our packages.

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Posted By: leon

Death would be too lenient......It would need to be torturing until death....then we are almost there.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Bruce loves to take these extreme positions, no doubt about it.

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Posted By: howard

This guy needs to do jail time. While 25 years is too much I agree w/Bruce that a postal worker stealing a card from the mail should get a harsher sentence than someone who steals the same card from a card show. We should not have to wonder if what we leave at the post office will be tampered with.

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Posted By: leon

This guy should have gotten a little time in the pokey...maybe 6 mos to a yr....and then some probation and fines. Though the "25yr" thing is always a thought..... But a little extreme imho....

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Posted By: barrysloate

I would have given him 60 days and a $2500 fine. Wouldn't that be enough to scare him straight, without ruining his life?

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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth

The punishment for this should be far worse than torturing until death. The only punishment fitting a crime of this magnitude would be house arrest, for no less than a month, with the Bruces.

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Posted By: richie

$2500 is a good fine in that case. If card is valued much more $100,000 range and is stolen. $2500 isnt much of a fine. $100,000 card minus his @$2500 fine. Still leaves him $97,500. I say 10 years

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Posted By: David Atkatz

"As through this world you ramble
You'll meet lots of funny men.
Some rob you with a six gun,
And some with a fountain pen."

It's those last that should receive the 25 years.

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Posted By: leon

If I had my choice of being robbed with a fountain pen or a 6 shooter.....please aim the pen at me....

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Posted By: Tony Galovich

He should have been given community service like

spending the next 50 weekends parading around wearing A "Sandwich Board" stating

"I stole A Baseball Card"
"I am A Lowlife"
"Don't Be Like Me"

Or He would have to Attend the National every year & would have to be A "Runner" for Dealers & do any and all errands for the dealers there while wearing a T-Shirt emblazoned: I'm A Baseball card Thief"

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

As a Postmaster, I say "throw the book at him". One of the basic tenants required of a postal worker is to honor the sanctity of the mail. The public trusts us to maintain their privacy and to deliver their mail.

Who knows what else he took. The birthday card to your grandson with a 20 dollar bill in it? The gift card that you sent as a wedding present? The Ty Cobb card that you mailed with delivery confirmation that doesn't show a "delivered" scan? Did you receive a neg on eBay because he stole one of your cards from your customer?

He should be fired, fined, and he should be serving some jail time. As far as ruining his life - he ruined his own life when he decided to steal mail from his customers.

Rick

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Posted By: Brian

Bruces,

I am sure this guy has no family or friends, that has got to impress the hell out of you.

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Posted By: bruce Dorskind

Brian

"what would impress the hell out of us" is if they sent you to jail...for life

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Posted By: Brian

Bruces,

I have never stolen anything. Heck, I have never even skipped out on a dinner bill. Even if I had a "limo" waiting...

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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth

He should be condemned to read Net 54 every day, that would be punishment enough.

Seriously though, how did the guy know there was a baseball card in the package? Something doesn't make sense to me about the story as written.

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Posted By: Steve Dawson

"I spent 20 years with the Department of Justice, including a stint as a prosecutor. Over those years, and a subsequent career in support of the federal judiciary, I met a boatload of people involved in the criminal justice system. I can honestly say I never met one who believed "a minimum of 25 years" would be an appropriate sentence for the theft of a baseball card. Mark"



Mark,

Would you still feel that way if the stolen card was a PSA 10 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle or PSA 6+ T206 Honus Wagner (both valued around $1M or more)???

Edited to add:

It shouldn't be about "what the item is", but about "how much is the item worth"


Steve

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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth

Pretty Boy Floyd, great song.

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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth

listening to the whole thing would be punishment enough for most crimes. It seems with each election we reach new lows of empty suits and empty rhetoric -- on both sides. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

This does not seem to be the correct outcome on this.


Investigators, through eBay, should have been able to have found the card. Since it was stolen, the seller couldn't convey good title. eBay buyer relinquishes the card and gets his money back, the jeweler may or may not get his money back depending on if he paid a reasonable price for the card, the intended recipient gets his card... the defendant pays any money anyone is out, and then maybe should have gotten more of a sentence.


Instead, they've not dealt with it as stolen, they've paid the insurance amount. That is screwed up, guys.

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Posted By: richie

I think this guy is a creep and deserves what he gets. But a thief is better off trying to rob sports cards. If he was to rob a store and get whatever he got for that card. the punishment would be much stiffer. The laws dont make much sence sometimes.

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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth

But how on earth as a practical matter are you going to bring about that result?

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Posted By: Craig W

we don't need 25 years for stealing a baseball card. We need THUNDERDOME! Two go in, one comes out! Could even make a card of the winner!

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Posted By: Jim Rivera

I think this guy or his buddy has worked on my street-I am missing my McGraw/Hindu. I am pretty sure stealing mail is a felony!

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Posted By: Matt

"Two go in, one comes out!"

Sounds like it would solve Bruce's multiple personality issue.

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Posted By: David Atkatz

"But as through this world you ramble,
As through this world you roam,
You'll never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home."

More appropriate than ever, these days.
The more things change...

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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth

It's amazing how fresh many of Woody's songs are so many years later.

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Posted By: jdrum

Almost makes me yearn for The Dust Bowl.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

The guy stole a thousand dollar baseball card. 25 years? What do we give the white collar fraudsters that steal $100 million? 26 years?

FWIW, in the federal system if the defendant who commits a fraud is in a position of trust to the person he defrauded additional jail time is warranted, i.e., a stockbroker or even a postman. I think such a punishment bump makes sense.

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Posted By: howard

Peter, I think that too many sellers send cards in envelopes w/their business name on them. A return label reading "Joe's Vintage Baseball Cards" would be mighty tempting to a thief who is also a collector.

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Posted By: pat

i snagged a counterfeiter and he was only sentenced to roughly 2 years if my memory serves me correctly. i think he should have received alot more time than that for counterfeiting. but 25 years for stealing a $655 card is a little much.

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Posted By: Mark Evans

Steve--

Yes, although the sentence should be greater in the case of a more valuable card. The reality is that many factors play into criminal sentencing, including significantly the defendant's history, which we don't know in this case. Frankly, I wouldn't lose sleep if this clown got some time. I just thought Bruce's comment missed the mark.

Mark

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Posted By: Jason L

he should be required to serve time as a card grader at PSA

Let's see if he gets that nasty little goatee thing of his in a twist from having to stare at Refractor cards all damn day long

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Posted By: dstudeba

Thanks to a previous poster who gave me one of the best laughs I have had in a while.

Who exactly is going to pay for his 25 year incarceration where he will learn how to be a better criminal?

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Posted By: Steve Murray

for the first time and the only thing I get out of it is that the Bruces sure know how to pull your chains.

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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth

Steve -- exactly. It always works too.

EDITED TO ADD JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT
My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time
To let the punishment fit the crime
The punishment fit the crime
And let each prisoner pent
Unwittingly represent
A source of innocent merriment
Of innocent merriment