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Old 11-25-2018, 03:04 PM
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...as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel
Yeah, but what I think your neglecting to take into account is that Jeter was ROY, broke 3K hits, .310 career BA, 14xAS, 5xWS champ, and ROY, and if that's not enough, he played for the Yankees in a dynasty period. So, I'm not knocking Trammell or his own RC card, but in terms of name recognition, even outside of the hobby, Jeter is an iconic player and soon to be 1st ballot HOFer.

As far as his '93 SP rookie is concerned you are right, the population is enormous, but...once you get to the mint grades now we're talking several hundred cards not thousands. I also, don't see to the numbers changing too much as the years go on as most of those '93 SP's are probably stuck together or have been warped in their boxes over time. The foil on those cards are extremely sensitive to indentations in the surface, chipping, and corner wear. His looks far nicer than most (unless you haven't taken a look at those things up close) - honestly looks like a BGS 9.5. And, while the population of '78 Trammell/Molitor (and even the '78 BK) cards is much smaller, Jeter's popularity/recognition is far greater than both Trammell and Molitor combined, I'm not really sold on Trammell as a comparable to Jeter in terms of hobby appeal.

Either way, it should be interesting to see what happens to mint 9+ graded after he gets inducted.
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Old 11-25-2018, 05:55 PM
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Real nice card of a first ballot HOF player!



Unless you have a great amount of experience with submitting crossovers, I would consider keeping this nice card in the holder it resides in.


I am not going to crack it out. I am sending it to BGS tomorrow for 2/day review with a min 9.5 crossover grade!! I think it has a great chance


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Old 11-27-2018, 01:33 AM
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The only card post 1980 more iconic than the sp Jeter is the 86 Jordan. Jeter is the most popular and widely collected player of the modern era, and despite what a few haters have to say I don't see that changing. Championships, and being the face of the Yankees for over a decade mean a lot more than stats alone. The all star appearances and 3000 hits don't hurt either.
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:21 PM
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This is the most iconic post-1980 card shy of the 86 Jordan? I think not. 1984 Donruss Mattingly, 1986 Donruss Jose Canseco, 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson, and (of course) the 1989 Upper Deck Griffey Jr. ALL are arguably more "iconic" as representatives of our hobby. For a period of time, the 1985 Topps McGwire, Clemens, Gooden and Puckett were also right up there. But the Jeter, though nice, is not nearly as immediately recognizable or "iconic" as the cards previously mentioned.
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:57 PM
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This is the most iconic post-1980 card shy of the 86 Jordan? I think not. 1984 Donruss Mattingly, 1986 Donruss Jose Canseco, 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson, and (of course) the 1989 Upper Deck Griffey Jr. ALL are arguably more "iconic" as representatives of our hobby. For a period of time, the 1985 Topps McGwire, Clemens, Gooden and Puckett were also right up there. But the Jeter, though nice, is not nearly as immediately recognizable or "iconic" as the cards previously mentioned.
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Not sure if this is a sarcastic reply, but of those you mentioned the 89 ud Griffey is the only one that's even close now.
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Not sure if this is a sarcastic reply, but of those you mentioned the 89 ud Griffey is the only one that's even close now.
I think all of those cards that were mentioned will always have some kind of iconic status, but the Jeter has taken over largely because of who he is and also the cardboard he appeared on (condition sensitive, relatively shorter print run than most of the typical junk wax cards, and it being the flagship year for SP). I will say, in my humble opinion, that the '89 Griffey RC is still more iconic than the Jeter (at least to me), but things change over time. At the very least, one could say is the Griffey most iconic card of the 80's and the Jeter has become the most iconic card of the 90's (not bad for Upper Deck).

However, all that being said, there is no way that the other cards can even compare to the popularity of Jeter's '93 SP - I think the demand and price speaks for itself.
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I collect Griffey, and the 89 ud was pretty iconic at the time it was released. The first card of a new set helped too. But there are so many out there that the sp Jeter has surpassed it. That 100k recent sale for a 10 proves the point. Other than some rare 1/1s or super fractor type cards, or low pop lebron rookies nothing produced in the last 40 years will come close to that price. And it's just a base card.
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I want to sincerely apologize for raining on your parade. Unfortunately, I was in a bad mood at the time, and should have realized that the key thing is that your acquisition of a very high quality Jeter rookie, with great eye appeal, brings you the joy that collecting whatever the rest of us collect brings us. Making those comments was extremely rude and boorish of me, and I have regretted making them ever since that post. Once again, I am very sorry for my negative comments, and wish you all the joy that collecting can bring. I would be honored if you would accept this apology.

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I want to sincerely apologize for raining on your parade. Unfortunately, I was in a bad mood at the time, and should have realized that the key thing is that your acquisition of a very high quality Jeter rookie, with great eye appeal, brings you the joy that collecting whatever the rest of us collect brings us. Making those comments was extremely rude and boorish of me, and I have regretted making them ever since that post. Once again, I am very sorry for my negative comments, and wish you all the joy that collecting can bring. I would be honored if you would accept this apology.

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Oh, and nice card!
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