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Old 10-20-2017, 05:15 PM
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There are some very scarce cards being made today that are virtually unknown to most collectors. The problem being that there are waaaay too many cards being made recently that these cards get lost in the masses and are basically ignored. Someday, there may be a demand for one of these modern rarities and the collectors will take note and drive values up, but there are a lot of factors involved to make that happen if at all.

I like the Jordan rookie because that falls into the category of a completely ignored junk card that exploded in popularity years later. People realized how limited it was, but that card was unique in that had no competition and stands on its on merit. (Other than the Star rookies).
Those are manufactured scarcities and aren't viewed as true raritys.
However, with today's generation, that may change going forward?
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:15 AM
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Another thing I believe made a difference is that New York was still the primary mecca for most news stories and especially sports. Also the fact that there were less teams to follow and a smaller geographical area. I think a lot of those on the west coast where there were no teams would have naturally chosen to follow New York teams and specifically the Yankees.
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Those are manufactured scarcities and aren't viewed as true raritys.
However, with today's generation, that may change going forward?
What always strikes me as funny is how many manufactured rarities there are before the modern era that are avidly sought with no stigma at all.

Outside of the 1/xx varieties which suffer from being such a regular part of a product today, there are other things that were produced in fairly low quantities that get no interest whatsoever. Like entire sets that are less common than the 86 Jordan but have values in the cents rather than hundreds or thousands of dollars.

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What always strikes me as funny is how many manufactured rarities there are before the modern era that are avidly sought with no stigma at all.

Outside of the 1/xx varieties which suffer from being such a regular part of a product today, there are other things that were produced in fairly low quantities that get no interest whatsoever. Like entire sets that are less common than the 86 Jordan but have values in the cents rather than hundreds or thousands of dollars.

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I agree, some things in this hobby just don't make any sense at all. (My Beehive hockey cards come to mind)
I am not sure, unlike the modern era, if scarcities back in the day were intentionally produced or not? I am guessing no?
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:58 PM
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I am not sure, unlike the modern era, if scarcities back in the day were intentionally produced or not? I am guessing no?
Maybe I am misunderstanding your post, but there are lots of intentionally produced scarcities from back in the day -- Nap Lajoie in the 1933 Goudey set, Fred Lindstrom in the 1932 U.S. Caramel set, William McKinley in the 1932 U.S. Caramel Presidents set, Earl Smith in the 1928 Harrington/Yuengling sets, 1923 Maple Crispette Casey Stengel, etc.

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Old 10-22-2017, 07:45 AM
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Maybe I misunderstanding your post, but there are lots of intentionally produced scarcities from back in the day -- Nap Lajoie in the 1933 Goudey set, Fred Lindstrom in the 1932 U.S. Caramel set, William McKinley in the 1932 U.S. Caramel Presidents set, Earl Smith in the 1928 Harrington/Yuengling sets, 1923 Maple Crispette Casey Stengel, etc.
I knew about, Nap, but completely forgot about that one. I wasn't aware of the others, however, so thanks for info/education, Bored5000.
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Ivy Andrews in The George C Millers, the winners in the union oil sets, 62 Topps presentation sets, Topps, Fleer and Score tiffany sets......probably a few I've missed.
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Ivy Andrews in The George C Millers, the winners in the union oil sets, 62 Topps presentation sets, Topps, Fleer and Score tiffany sets......probably a few I've missed.
Weren't there individual cards made by Topps in 71 or 72 of kids who won a contest?

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I knew about, Nap, but completely forgot about that one. I wasn't aware of the others, however, so thanks for info/education, Bored5000.
No problem, Irv. Almost all of the manufactured rarities from the 1920s and '30s were done so to avoid giving out a prize for redeeming a completed set. In the 1932 U.S. Caramel Presidents set, common cards can easily be found for under $100. Even a nice Washington or Lincoln can be had for just a couple hundred dollars. William McKinley, meanwhile, sold for $96,000 in the 2014 REA auction.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...ly-discovered/

The SGC 10 McKinley card currently at auction in REA is at $27,000

Another legendary rarity is the "Strongman" card from the 1935 Schutter-Johnson "I'm Going to Be" set. That set listed various occupations and the Strongman card was the near impossible card so that the company would not have to give away too many prizes. The only known "Strongman" card sold for $22,000 at REA in 2014.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...iving-example/

Another legendary non-sport rarity is the "Cowboy Outfit" card from the 1933 Wild West Series. The card was intentionally short-printed so that manufacturer Gum Inc. would not have to give away too many complete cowboy outfits.

A raw "Cowboy Outfit" card sold $4,100 at REA in 2013.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...-premium-card/

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Those are manufactured scarcities and aren't viewed as true raritys.
However, with today's generation, that may change going forward?
I am not talking about stamped 1/1, 1/5, 1/25, etc. cards from the manufacturers. I am referring to cards that are TRULY RARE. I know one card for example that I heard existed, but I have never seen one anywhere. Never on Ebay since it was printed. I looked on Google for images on other web sites and nothing. I will not name this card because I want it and have been looking for a long time to no avail. I am beginning to doubt it exists at all. I bet that card will never be worth much simply because there is zero demand. Well demand of 1. Me. Without demand there is no value. These cards have been thrown away or are sitting in someone's shoebox in an attic.
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