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Old 04-18-2009, 12:13 PM
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Posted By: Dave Haas

Has anyone had any dealings with American Memorabilia auctions out of Las Vegas. I won an item in their last auction which upon arrival and inspection had a non disclosed defect. I am having trouble communicating with them and when you call their phone number it forwards you to voicemail. Are they OK to purchase from???

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Old 04-18-2009, 02:21 PM
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Posted By: Mark

Good luck with that. They are the absolute worst at returning phone calls, paying their consignors, and customer service in general (unless it is to collect a payment, in which case they are very prompt and "hands-on"). You may have to drive to Las Vegas to get resolution, which is what I once had to do (back in the days I actually dealt with them...)

How this outfit continues to attract bidders and consignors is beyond me, but they are somehow still around. I have heard that when people have threatened them with legal action, they tend to act a bit quicker, but would be interested to hear how it goes for you.

Best of luck, and please keep us posted...

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Old 04-19-2009, 07:55 AM
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They have received a grade of F from the Better Business Bureau of Southern Nevada. I was an authenticator for them several years ago and can unpleasantly recall my experiences.
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Old 04-19-2009, 08:56 AM
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If you search on this board you will find some very unpleasant issues with this company. My only dealing with them was when they had some fake Headin' Home cards in their auction. I eventually talked to Victor (the owner)...he sent them to SGC and they agreed they were fake. They were highlighted on the back cover of their magazine.....To their credit they did pull the cards. The idiot consignor had come on this board saying we were all wrong and look at them on the cover and in auction...then they were pulled and the idiot never came back here. Go figure...

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Old 04-19-2009, 10:30 AM
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Posted By: Mark

For what it's worth, I bought a KiKi Cuyler pro model bat from their auction a couple of years ago and was happy with the outcome.

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To your point, they do (amazingly) continue to get quality consignments and do feature high-end items. Their game-used Bats are accompanied by Mears and/or PSA Letters, and their autographed pieces are supported by PSA or JSA.

I have heard lots of complaints on the Game Used Forum, regarding some of the uniforms authenticated by Lou Lampson. But the majority are probably actually ok.

The multiple complaints more specifically concern their withholding of people's money, complete lack of communication, unreturned phone calls, length of time to pay consignors, multiple excuses (the check is in the mail, the winning bidder hasn't paid for the item, all sales are final, etc.)

I consigned them 2 pennants from Super Bowl 1, which they took the liberty to combine with a program and ticket (owned by someone else). They framed the entire ensemble (completely without my permission and unknown to me). When I didn't see my pennants in their auction, I asked about it, and they told me what they had done. Of course the framed group lot failed to sell, and I was never (ever) paid for the pennants.

Nor did I ever receive them back... It just became too much effort to try to reach them on the phone or get resolution... they did not want to break up the framed ensemble (which I'm sure cost them a lot to put together). After a dozen or so tries, I finally just gave up trying and learned a valuable $500 lesson.

AMI's customer service aspect is so bad that I know they've lost many bidders/consignors for life. But apparently their overall customer base is large enough that they continue to thrive.




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Old 04-19-2009, 12:24 PM
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Mark,

That simply is a jaw-dropping story.

The red flags that come to mind regarding their combining of items from different consignors into one lot are almost endless.

If you weren't the one telling this story, I'd have trouble believing it because it's such an absurd business practice.

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Old 04-19-2009, 12:34 PM
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Every word of it is true...

But I want to clarify that the Super Bowl 1 ticket and program (that were combined with my pennants in the large framed ensemble) may have been owned by AMI. I don't know whether they were the property of AMI or a different consignor.

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Mark, you should contact the Better Business Bureau of Southern Nevada, at least get this on their record.
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How would one even known how the money should be split up in a multi-owner group lot?

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Posted By: Mark

Someone should start a sports auction licensing board.

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"I consigned them 2 pennants from Super Bowl 1, which they took the liberty to combine with a program and ticket (owned by someone else). They framed the entire ensemble (completely without my permission and unknown to me). When I didn't see my pennants in their auction, I asked about it, and they told me what they had done. Of course the framed group lot failed to sell, and I was never (ever) paid for the pennants.

Nor did I ever receive them back..."

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WTF?

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Old 04-20-2009, 12:26 AM
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Posted By: davidcycleback

Mark's is one of the weirdest hobby stories I've heard.

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Posted By: Mark

If you go to the Game Used Forum, you'll find other "horror stories" from AMI consignors. Perhaps not as blatantly corrupt, but there are many...

The fact that they took the liberty to combine my consignments with other items (without my permission) is one thing. The fact that they kept those 2 Pennants without any compensation or even a return phone call is criminal. Can't think of any better word to describe it.

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Old 04-20-2009, 08:19 AM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

They probably sold your pennants so they could finance this piece of crap video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-svgrFmM0

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Old 04-20-2009, 09:21 AM
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Posted By: Mark L

As Mark Perez fan says, the Game Used Forum indicates that there are lots of consignors dialing up lawyers regarding American Memorabilia. Plenty of complaints at other sites, too.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycompany/american-memorabilia-a103960.html

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Old 04-20-2009, 09:22 AM
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Dan:
Thanks for sharing... I think?

Well then, at least the money was put to good use. Those stripper poles and leather outfits aren't cheap. A very tasteful sampling of Black Dog, as well... I'm sure Robert Plant and Jimmy Page would be honored, and very proud of that one.


Mark L:
Great post and link... many people have been taken to the cleaners by this outfit, and are much worse off than me. Glad to see there are well organized activities to circumvent their illegal use of peoples' funds.

ALL potential consignors should read the link you posted abaove... even if it only helps a few to go elsewhere to sell their stuff. Thanks!

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Posted By: Dave Haas

I guess I should just be happy to get the item I won, even with the defect.

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