Show us your "unique" (1 of 1) T206 cards.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Pat R

This is how the pop reports get out of whack. David probably had the Herzog
crossed over.

Maybe not. The Herzog has me confused. Ted bought it from a friend in 2010 and recently sold it to David Hall. But an Uzit Herzog (in the same SGC holder) sold in REA in 2013. So is there more than one?

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...-only-example/

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

Maybe not. The Herzog has me confused. Ted bought it from a friend in 2010 and recently sold it to David Hall. But an Uzit Herzog (in the same SGC holder) sold in REA in 2013. So is there more than one?

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...-only-example/

David has all the cards for the most part....

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

Maybe not. The Herzog has me confused. Ted bought it from a friend in 2010 and recently sold it to David Hall. But an Uzit Herzog (in the same SGC holder) sold in REA in 2013. So is there more than one?

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...-only-example/

Hi Ronnie

The Herzog / UZIT in REA that you are referring to was my card. I offered it to David Hall at the 2013 National.
I gave him a price, but he suggested that I consign it to REA in order to see what market value it would rise to.
He won this card; and, of course he had it graded by PSA.

I hope this information "de-confuses" you.


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TED Z
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[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Ronnie

The Herzog / UZIT in REA that you are referring to was my card. I offered it to David Hall at the 2013 National.
I gave him a price, but he suggested that I consign it to REA in order to see what market value it would rise to.
He won this card; and, of course he had it graded by PSA.

I hope this information "de-confuses"
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Thanks Ted. Your explanation definitely clears my confusion. My mistake. I just didn't connect the dots that recently selling it to David Hall was the same thing as consigning it to an auction house in 2013. Makes perfect sense since David Hall was the one who bought it at auction. GREAT CARD!!!!!!!

[tedzan]

Thanks Ronnie

I have sold directly to David quite a number of rare T206's prior to (and after) this Herzog card. However,
he thought it would be mutually fair to both of us for him to bid on it in an Auction situation.

And, that was fine with me, since I knew he would win the card, anyhow.


TED Z
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[Yoda]

Back long before grading companies broke out different T206 tobacco company reverses, and because I no longer have the card, so no scan possible, I held a PSA 7 Griffith batting with a Drum reverse, so sweet it breaks my heart to even think about it. For all I know, David Hall has it in his private vault.

[gabrinus]

Here are two I sold a couple of years ago......Jerry

[Sean]

Hey Jerry, as it turns out I grabbed your Atz.

And a friend of mine got your Collins.

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[David R]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Back long before grading companies broke out different T206 tobacco company reverses, and because I no longer have the card, so no scan possible, I held a PSA 7 Griffith batting with a Drum reverse, so sweet it breaks my heart to even think about it. For all I know, David Hall has it in his private vault.

I have the Drum Griffith card but only a PSA 2

[tedzan]

This T206 was ungraded for a long time; and, during that period it was unique. In recent years I had it graded.
But, it's no longer 1 of 1. Now there is another Elberfeld / DRUM graded (PSA 3).


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TED Z
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Ronnie

The Herzog / UZIT in REA that you are referring to was my card. I offered it to David Hall at the 2013 National.
I gave him a price, but he suggested that I consign it to REA in order to see what market value it would rise to.
He won this card; and, of course he had it graded by PSA.

I hope this information "de-confuses" you.






TED Z
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If he did have the Herzog crossed over to PSA it should have received a MC qualifier. PSA assigns a MC to a card that has any part of the name or team
cut off.
Herzog MC.jpgLake MC.jpg

[tedzan]

David Hall called me after the REA auction to tell me that he had won the Herzog / UZIT graded, and that PSA graded it a 1/2 point lower than SGC.
As most of us know, David is part owner of the PSA outfit and has all his T206 cards PSA graded.

So, I'm not sure what you are implying ?

It appears as if you are questioning my statement in post #31. If so, I have no further comment.


Post #31

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Ronnie

The Herzog / UZIT in REA that you are referring to was my card. I offered it to David Hall at the 2013 National.
I gave him a price, but he suggested that I consign it to REA in order to see what market value it would rise to.
He won this card; and, of course he had it graded by PSA.




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TED Z
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

David Hall called me after the REA auction to tell me that he had won the Herzog / UZIT graded, and that PSA graded it a 1/2 point lower than SGC.
As most of us know, David is part owner of the PSA outfit and has all his T206 cards PSA graded.

So, I'm not sure what you are implying ?

It appears as if you are questioning my statement in post #31. If so, I have no further comment.


Post #31

Ted, I wasn't questioning your statement perhaps the wording in my post
wasn't the best. I was questioning if he might have received a favorable
grade based on PSA's grading standards. The Herzog clearly has part of
the name and team cut off.
1909-1911-t206-buck-herzog-boston-uzit-back-only-example.jpg
Herzog MC.jpg
Lake MC.jpg

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Ted, I wasn't questioning your statement perhaps the wording in my post
wasn't the best. I was questioning if he might have received a favorable
grade based on PSA's grading standards. The Herzog clearly has part of
the name and team cut off.

Pat

You may be correct in that observation.

I'm not much of a fan of the card grading system. I think that some times it can be quite arbitrary. For example,
I refer to the AB 460 Jennings card which I posted. First graded "Authentic", subsequently graded SGC 60.
Hey, I'm not complaining. I like the Ex grade (which, in my opinion this card should have been graded initially).







TED Z
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[MVSNYC]

Ted- did you crack out the Jennings from its "A" slab and resubmitted raw? Nice bump.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ty_cobb

I'm not sure what I have left of 1 of 1s? But I must have had a few at one time as I had many Red Hindus,,,, my favorite one of one is the T206 Eddie Collins batting though,

Originally Posted by sreader3

My favorite of all time. I would rather have that than the Wagner any day.

Hi Scot

That's quite a statement....regarding your preference for the Collins (with bat) card over the Wagner card !

Do you have any theory's why American Litho printed him, but withheld him ?

TED Z
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