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02-24-2015, 02:18 PM
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1958 Hires Root Beer Willie Mays No Tab
Any thoughts on this listing? I was thinking about picking it up for PSA grading but a little hesitant about potential trimming. If this is the right place to ask, please LMK.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Hires-R...3D391045415098
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Willie Mays Want List: 1958-1961 JAY PUBLISHING PHOTOS-TYPE 1 WILLIE MAYS PORTRAIT-POSE TO NECK 1964 MEADOWGOLD DAIRY PANEL-HAND CUT MANTL / KOUFX / MAYS / MAZERSKI 1968 AMERICAN OIL WILLIE MAYS LEFT SIDE-$10 1969 GLOBE IMPORTS PLAYING CARDS WILLIE MAYS ACE OF HEARTS-CHECKERBOARD BACK 1971 BAZOOKA NUMBERED WILLIE MAYS HAND CUT 
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02-24-2015, 02:45 PM
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'58 Hires Root Beer
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Nice card....wonder why the top edge is roughed up on the back? Sorry not an authority on this issue. Z Wheat
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02-24-2015, 02:46 PM
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         Just kidding.
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02-24-2015, 08:20 PM
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Why would you assume it would grade as a PSA 1? Still fairly new to this, and haven't bought many raw cards for grading. Are you seeing something in this that would make it a PSA 1 or Authentic?
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Willie Mays Want List: 1958-1961 JAY PUBLISHING PHOTOS-TYPE 1 WILLIE MAYS PORTRAIT-POSE TO NECK 1964 MEADOWGOLD DAIRY PANEL-HAND CUT MANTL / KOUFX / MAYS / MAZERSKI 1968 AMERICAN OIL WILLIE MAYS LEFT SIDE-$10 1969 GLOBE IMPORTS PLAYING CARDS WILLIE MAYS ACE OF HEARTS-CHECKERBOARD BACK 1971 BAZOOKA NUMBERED WILLIE MAYS HAND CUT
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02-24-2015, 10:04 PM
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Seems like it could be trimmed along the top, although it may measure correctly. Top edge looks uneven and with cut remnants on back, and although the latter are not always determinative, I don't recall seeing that with Hires. There also seems to be a slight paper pull/tear on the back near the last line of text.
 I started to collect these a long time ago and gave up because I wasn't thrilled with the player selection (several AL teams not represented), but I thought the design was among the coolest. I remember that it was one of the toughest sets for me to get a handle on trimming, because the cards were far from uniform in size. It was just as bad or worse when you collected the cards with tabs attached--those puppies always seemed to be cut just slightly different from one to the next.
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02-24-2015, 10:47 PM
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My experiences echo Todd's- lots of variation of sizes on this issue. Add to that that the removal of the tab often lead to small wrinkles that take the grade down considerably.
As a side note of trivia, '58 Hires was one of the designs considered for the '56 Bowman set before Bowman settled with Topps and closed up. 
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02-25-2015, 08:05 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts everyone. The potential trimming along the top is exactly what I was fearful of.
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Willie Mays Want List: 1958-1961 JAY PUBLISHING PHOTOS-TYPE 1 WILLIE MAYS PORTRAIT-POSE TO NECK 1964 MEADOWGOLD DAIRY PANEL-HAND CUT MANTL / KOUFX / MAYS / MAZERSKI 1968 AMERICAN OIL WILLIE MAYS LEFT SIDE-$10 1969 GLOBE IMPORTS PLAYING CARDS WILLIE MAYS ACE OF HEARTS-CHECKERBOARD BACK 1971 BAZOOKA NUMBERED WILLIE MAYS HAND CUT
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