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Old 09-26-2018, 09:55 PM
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Default 1949 LEAF BB set re-visited....show us your cards

The 1949 LEAF's aren't the most pretty looking cards in the hobby, but there is a certain appeal to them. Anyhow, I have quite a sentimental attachment
to these cards, as they were my first colorized BB cards I collected when I was a kid. I still remember opening a pack and finding a Babe Ruth card. They
were great for flipping, or scaling with your buddies. I still have my original 49-card set from my youth. Never saw any of the 2nd series (49 cards) in our
neighborhood in Hillside, NJ. These so-called Short-Prints were distributed only to Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio.

I'll start this show with my two favorites. Looking forward to seeing your 1949 LEAF cards.


1st Series.....issued March 1949 (last card of Joe D in a major set)






2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949 (1st card of Paige in a major set)






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Here's mine , and in my opinion they are some of the prettiest post war cards

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I don't have any scans handy, but this is my all-time favorite set. I love it that they look like Andy Warhol was making baseball cards. (And in 1949! Those folks at Leaf were way ahead of the time.)
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One of my favorite sets. Cool looking, and loads of varieties far beyond what's cataloged.



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Some of my favorites of the cards in my PC. PSA has them labeled as 48s
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When I first got back into collecting, around 1998, these cards did not do much for me. Over time, though, I have learned to appreciate their unique beauty. The set is definitely an acquired taste, and I like the challenge of finding the odd color variation or perfectly registered HOFers.
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I don't have any scans handy, but this is my all-time favorite set. I love it that they look like Andy Warhol was making baseball cards. (And in 1949! Those folks at Leaf were way ahead of the time.)
I agree with the Warhol comparison. Years ago I made this "sig" to put after my posts on some of the forums, and it was inspired by the classic Warhol silkscreens for which he was known.
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In general, I'm not a fan of this issue as many of the images are blurred or otherwise inferior to all other sets...see the Newhouser scan posted as an example.

My two do not suffer from that problem, nor did the Musial RC I sold recently.


1948 Leaf BABE RUTH PSA-5.jpg1948 LEAF- TED WILLIAMS PSA-6.jpg
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There are twenty HOFers in the 1949 LEAF set with the Indians having the most HOFers......


Spring series cards

MVP in 1948
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Summer series cards (short-prints)

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And for those of you who simply have to start the set after seeing these awesome cards, this is on eBay now (full disclosure--I know the seller).

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Complementary pair of wrong backs from my 2nd 1949 LEAF set.

These inverted backs on the cards in the 2nd (SP) series tells us that the printer simply ran the pre-printed 49-card sheets (of fronts)
in reverse when doing the back print run. All 49 subjects in this series have been found with wrong-backs.

I've never seen 1st series wrong-backs from this set. Anyhow, if you have 1949 LEAF wrong-backs, please post them here.....Thanks.



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Shown here is one of the 4 variations in this set. The Red Cap version of Peterson is tougher to find.






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Leaf errors and misprints are fun. My Spahn 'ghost':




Vandermeer front ghost:




And the color variations:



The beautiful thing about Leaf is that their QC absolutely sucked across the board:





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Great stuff there, Adam.

Here's some of mine...…


Varying shades of BLUE......shown here are some of my LEAF cards from Set #1 and Set #2.....










And then, there is BLUE or no BLUE.





Plus, I'll throw in a red wet-transfer of Johnny Hopp.



Stay tuned....I'll be displaying more of these LEAF printing anomalies.



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While the 1st series of 49 cards of this 1949 LEAF BB set were very available in most states throughout the country in the early Spring of 1949,
the 2nd series (49 cards) were issued in the Summer of 1949 and were regionally limited to Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan and Ohio.
These 2nd series cards, as most of you know who collect this set, are extremely tough to find. And, are referred to as Short-Prints.
In the following posts all 49 of these short-prints will be displayed.

FYI....1949 LEAF 2nd series checklist with respect to teams......


BOSTON BRAVES
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ALVIN DARK
TOMMY HOLMES
HAROLD REISER

BOSTON RED SOX
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MATHEW BATTS
DOM DiMAGGIO
BILLY GOODMAN
JOHNNY PESKY
VERN STEPHENS

CHICAGO CUBS
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PHIL CAVARETTA
FRANK GUSTINE
EMIL LEONARD
HARRY LOWREY
BOB SCHEFFING
JOHNNY SCHMITZ
HARRY WALKER

CHICAGO WHITE SOX
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FLOYD BAKER
ORVAL GROVE
CASIMER MICHAELS
DAVE PHILLEY

CINCINNATI REDS
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BOBBY ADAMS
HANK SAUER
JOHN WYROSTEK

CLEVELAND INDIANS
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BOB FELLER
LEROY PAIGE
LARRY DOBY
KEN KELTNER
DALE MITCHELL

DETROIT TIGERS
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GEORGE KELL
HAL NEWHOUSER
WALTER EVERS
FRED HUTCHINSON
VIRGIL TRUCKS

NEW YORK GIANTS
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SID GORDON

NEW YORK YANKEES
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TOMMY HENRICH

PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS
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EDDIE JOOST
HENRY MAJESKI
BARNEY McCOSKY

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
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ED MILLER
DICK SISLER

PITTSBURGH PIRATES
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KIRBY HIGBE
DANNY MURTAUGH
EDDIE STEVENS

ST LOUIS BROWNS
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BOB DILLINGER
CLIFFORD FANNIN
AL ZARILLA

ST LOUIS CARDINALS
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ENOS SLAUGHTER
HARRY BRECHEEN
GEORGE KUROWSKI

WASHINGTON SENATORS
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EDDIE STEWART



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Starting the 2nd series cards display...…



…………………………………………………….…. l.......wrong back….(Feller).......l







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This is a wonderful thread. I didn’t know a lot about this set, other than I love the look of the cards. Thank you for sharing so much information. This is my only Leaf st this time.
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Continuing with the 2nd series cards, here are 9 more......





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I've been collecting 1949 LEAF's for 37 years. Currently making progress on my 2nd set of them. And, it appears to me that these 6 subjects in the 2nd series
are considerably tougher to find than any of the other 43 subjects in this series.

I am curious to hear what cards have you guys found to be the toughest in this set ?



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And, here is another group of short-prints....this brings our total to 33 cards displayed on this page.
Sixteen more will be forthcoming to complete the 2nd series group of 49 subjects.






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Here are 15 more 2nd series cards....which leaves us just one more card to show to complete this 49-card display on this page.

Anyone want to guess who this 49th guy is ?









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No one ventured a guess, so here's the 49th card in this 2nd series display.


The Brothers DiMaggio

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OK, quite a number of mis-printed 1949 LEAF cards can be found....but, can anyone on this forum top this mis-print ?

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There are some pretty nice looking Babe Ruth cards on display in this thread. Here are my two Ruth cards from my two sets.

The fine looking Ruth on the left...I paid only a penny for in the Spring of 1949. It is not unusual to find the Babe Ruth cards
from this set in pretty nice condition, because a lot of us kids did not "flip" them, nor stick them in our bicycle spokes (as we
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Sweet 1 cent Ruth. Did you buy packs in the day as well?
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Here are the wrappers of the two competing Gum Co. in 1949. The Bowman wax packs were available for a Penny and a Nickel.
I remember only Penny wax packs of LEAF in my neighborhood.


..................... 1949 BOWMAN ............................................... 1949 LEAF .........................

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1949 LEAF BB B/W photo of an uncut sheet of the 1st series cards.






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Ted, thanks for all the images. Sometimes I think the only way to appreciate the beauty of a set is to see many of the cards side by side. Especially a set with so many colors.

Side note, the inclusion of Ruth has puzzled me....as do the high prices for that card since it was not issued during his playing days. It makes that set even harder to put together for a collector on a budget!
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Ted, thanks for all the images. Sometimes I think the only way to appreciate the beauty of a set is to see many of the cards side by side. Especially a set with so many colors.

Side note, the inclusion of Ruth has puzzled me....as do the high prices for that card since it was not issued during his playing days. It makes that set even harder to put together for a collector on a budget!

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In the Spring of 1949, many of us kids were excited to open up a LEAF pack to find a Babe Ruth card. It was still very fresh in our minds when Babe Ruth passed away in August 1948.
LEAF Gum Co. sold a lot of cards by including Ruth in this set.

Furthermore, they sold a lot cards in 1949 by "skip-numbering" these cards. This was a "nasty" little marketing trick that kept us kids spending a ton of pennies buying these cards, in
the quest of filling in our sets with the missing numbers. Many of which did not exist.


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The long-sleeve card of Cliff Aberson appeared in the early issues of the 1949 LEAF cards. The short-sleeve version
appeared later in the game. My guess is that the short-sleeve Aberson cards are simply the result of printing flaw.





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Ted -

You make reference to " short print " with some of the cards. Is this due to the cards being a " single print " in relation to the rest of the cards, or were all cards to be printed in the same amount, but due to layout of the cards on a sheet some were overlooked and not placed as often for printing.
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Hi Lou

The so-called "Short-Prints" is a term which the hobby years ago used to identify these cards. I prefer to refer to these 1949 LEAF cards as the "2nd series" cards
which were issued in the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were limited in both production and distribution. Research indicates that this 2nd series of 1949 LEAF's
were marketed only in Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. While the 1st series of 49 cards were marketed in large numbers nationwide.
My understanding as to why this occurred was due to litigation problems between the BOWMAN GUM CO. and the LEAF GUM CO. in 1949.

All 49 cards in this 2nd series are displayed in this thread in Posts #22, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31.


1st Series.....issued March 1949






2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949






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….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.

Note that SGC identifies the year of these Premiums as 1949. And, I think PSA does, also. Yet they incorrectly identify the 1949 BB cards. Trust me, guys...…
these Premiums were inserted in the 24-count Wax-Back boxes which the 1949 BB cards were packaged in. I would say, PSA and SGC are totally confused ! ?








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Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.

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Old 11-19-2018, 08:17 PM
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again ... grading companies not alone on this nor were they the first. i know you know this.
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Old 11-19-2018, 08:59 PM
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Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.

Hi Ken

It's a very tough card, no matter it's condition. Thanks for posting it.


Here's the Hermansk in my set....not too much better.






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Old 11-20-2018, 09:39 PM
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Default 1949 Leaf BB set re-visited....show us your cards......

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Old 12-22-2018, 02:34 PM
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Default 1949 LEAF BB set re-visited....show us your cards

In early press runs Kent Peterson is depicted with a black cap. Later issues of 1st series cards Kent Peterson is depicted with a Red cap.
My guess is LEAF changed the color of his cap to be consistent with the 3 other Cincinnati players in the 1st series. The Red cap version
is much tougher to find.






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