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Old 09-18-2017, 12:59 AM
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Question Newbie mistake - what is wrong with my Clemente rookie?

Hi all - first time poster with a request for some info. Made a newbie mistake and hoping for some advice. May I never re-live this stupidity. I know, if I want a PSA slabbed card, I should buy one!

Recently purchased a 1955 Topps Clemente rookie on Ebay rated BVG 6.5. I"m sure you can still find the sale from early August. Card looks sharp, to-size, and pretty well centered. Since my goal is to complete a Clemente PSA set, I had grand delusions to break it out and submit to PSA, which I did. Of course, the card came back N5-Altered Stock. I've looked this thing over and over up close, under good light, and compared gloss, etc... to another fully authentic 1955 topps card and I can't tell the problem. My best guess is that it may be sheet cut, especially since it doesn't have any edge with that "fuzzy" edge look like I see on a lot of the other 55 topps cards.

Before I start resending this thing back to PSA over and over hoping for a miracle, or hoping that BVG will re-grade it and get it back into a slab, does anybody have any other ideas? Is it true that PSA won't really tell me anything?

One more thing - I did notice that on the front, there is a small area (approx 1/4 inch by 1/8 inch) along/near the bottom edge under the "OB" of "ROBERTO" where there appears to be some missing gloss. It is really only visible at an angle under bright light. Maybe more evidence of sheet cut or ???

Here are a couple of pics. Hoping somebody can help me know if it is a lost cause to try to get this into a PSA slab, or what my options might be. Worst case, I would try to get re-slabbed BVG. I'm not opposed to SCG, but I guess they are as strict or more than PSA...

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Old 09-18-2017, 03:10 AM
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The first thing you probably want to do is put Roberto under a black light. That may expose the alteration(s).
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Old 09-18-2017, 05:20 AM
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Altered stock is their term for a card that's been pressed from years in a screwdown holder. You can try with PSA again, but after that, send it back to BVG.
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Old 09-18-2017, 07:29 AM
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I have a 55 Ted Williams that I submitted to PSA at the National. It came back as Altered Stock. I couldn't see anything wrong with the card so I took it to the SGC booth. They called me a couple hours later and asked me to come to their booth. I was told that it looks like someone had erased something across the bottom border. In looking at the card under magnification I could see some gloss was missing. I had it slabbed as authentic.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:41 AM
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Keep sending it in to PSA. I bet they will eventually give it a numerical grade. Might take several submissions.
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:21 AM
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Keep sending it in to PSA. I bet they will eventually give it a numerical grade. Might take several submissions.
As someone who has never played the grading game of resubmitting a card, I'd assume they keep track of your submissions. Do they not notice the same card being submitted over and over again?
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:28 AM
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As someone who has never played the grading game of resubmitting a card, I'd assume they keep track of your submissions. Do they not notice the same card being submitted over and over again?
These are just rumors so take what I say as that. Some have said that they use a mark to identify very high end cards good and bad. I could see this happening but with their huge turnover I can't imagine them doing it on 99.99% of the cards they receive.
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Your pics have disappeared, at least for me (Photobucket issues). I use, and quite a few others have switched over to FlickR.
Link below, which is a basic set up. Lots of options to play/set up as you like, and the best is, it's free.
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If you right click on the photobucket image and click "Open in new window", you'll be able to see the pictures.
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:13 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I will try to upload photos using something other than Photobucket. Hopefully you can still see them using the Photobucket link. I will definitely check with a black light. If anybody has any further info, that would be great. I'll take all the feedback I can get. I'm learning this baseball card grading game as quickly as I can.

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